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Old 04-11-2019, 05:04 PM   #371 (permalink)
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How is free will math? I consider free will the capacity to make choices from a list of known options. You come in with the gang, add all your own ****, and tell me im wrong and I dont have free will because math. There is no science or math here, its a philosophical concept, that should be discussed with an agreed upon usage prior to debate.
But options are magic and brains aren't magic. Stop being intellectually dishonest and just agree with me already.
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Old 04-11-2019, 05:06 PM   #372 (permalink)
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Old 04-11-2019, 05:09 PM   #373 (permalink)
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Science is math?

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Everything runs on math. If you don't think your brain is bound by equations the same as everything else then you're talking about the supernatural by definition. You might as well say "but wutaboot souls?"

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How is free will math? I consider free will the capacity to make choices from a list of known options. Then you come in with the gang, add all your own ****, and tell me im wrong and I dont have free will because math. There is no science or math here, its a philosophical concept that should be discussed with an agreed upon usage prior to debate.
If you don't know I'm talking about incompatibalism then you haven't been paying attention. Frown and I have had this discussion several times before so we know what the other is talking about.
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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Old 04-11-2019, 05:11 PM   #374 (permalink)
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Everything runs on math.
Math is a tool that we use to explain the world. It's in a pretty sweet spot but historically it's been shown to be imperfect.

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If you don't think your brain is bound by equations the same as everything else then you're talking about the supernatural by definition. You might as well say "but wutaboot souls?"
Which equations are these?

Also, thinking that "we" are separate from our brains is basically an argument for the existence of souls. It's more like "what about sentience and bodily control?".
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Old 04-11-2019, 05:21 PM   #375 (permalink)
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Math is a tool that we use to explain the world. It's in a pretty sweet spot but historically it's been shown to be imperfect.
That would be relevant if I said that current mathematical models could predict human "choice". Our ability to predict human action has no bearing on this discussion because our failure to understand absolutely every mathematical equation does not disprove math itself.

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Which equations are these?
Stop being dense. I feel like I'm talking to elphenor.

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Also, thinking that "we" are separate from our brains is basically an argument for the existence of souls. It's more like "what about sentience and bodily control?".
When did I say we are separate from our brains? My whole point is that we are not and since our brains are bound by math then we are bound by math. The only way you can be misinterpreting my arguments is if you are so bound by emotion that you need to strawman me in order to protect your fragile sense of self.
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If I'm being dense it should be easy to explain. What math are you referring to?
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Old 04-11-2019, 05:27 PM   #377 (permalink)
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I honestly don't understand what you don't understand.
"I don't believe in free will."
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"Someone told me it was because of math."
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