What Did President Trump Do Now?

Anteater · 07-11-2017, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Uh, cool but I asked was it Pizzagate that amped up the use of the term "fake news" recently or were there things that lead up to that?

It was the Fusion GPS / Christopher Steele dossier about the Russian hookers pissing on him that started the whole "you are fake news" position from the Trump administration.

**Frownland** · 07-11-2017, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

On Jun 3, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Rob Goldstone wrote:
Good morning
Emin just called and asked me to contact you with something very interesting.
The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.
This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin.
What do you think is the best way to handle this information and would you be able to speak to Emin about it directly?
I can also send this info to your father via Rhona, but it is ultra sensitive so wanted to send to you first.
Best
Rob Goldstone

On Jun 3, 2016, at 10:53, Donald Trump Jr. wrote:
Thanks Rob I appreciate that. I am on the road at the moment but perhaps I just speak to Emin first. Seems we have some time and if it's what you say I love it especially later in the summer. Could we do a call first thing next week when I am back?
Best,
Don

Collusion 101.

Would you consider Trump and friends to be a reliable source? I don't. I'll wait for Mueller's report before making a verdict. Everything up until that point is just noise and potential distractions.

Not really directed at you btw, just rather annoyed with this story taking up such a huge priority in the media.

Chula Vista · 07-11-2017, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

Where things get funny is that it turns out this lawyer worked for Fusion GPS....

"According to a representative of Trump's legal team".

Anteater · 07-11-2017, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

"According to a representative of Trump's legal team".

And? If that one little thing is correct, your entire narrative is jettisoned. Assuming you know their history in relation to the dossier. They also have ties to the people Jr. was corresponding with in the email.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...s-with-kremlin

That being said, Fusion GPS themselves are claiming ignorance here. But they are no more trustworthy than Trump's legal team I suppose, so this is a stalemate without more information.

Chula Vista · 07-11-2017, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Not really directed at you btw, just rather annoyed with this story taking up such a huge priority in the media.

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This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump

Sorry about your annoyance, but this is a HUGE bombshell considering how long the Trump team have been proclaiming NO COLLUSION.

The leader of the Senate Intelligence Committee was making some pretty serious statements. And even a Trump spokesperson replied to a reporter, "My mind is blown!".

In July 2016 Trump Jr. said on camera that "we should bring back the electric chair for the reporters who were making false accusations about Russian involvement."

**Frownland** · 07-11-2017, 11:46 AM

What do these emails (which may or may not be reliable) provide that is prosecutable? It seems that unless perjury or bribery is involved with this situation, collusion is legal. You could call it treason but that absolutely won't hold up in court let's be honest.

Chula Vista · 07-11-2017, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

And? If that one little thing is correct, your entire narrative is jettisoned. Assuming you know their history in relation to the dossier.

It's really not even about the Russian chick. It's about someone contacting Trump Jr. with the offer of information to hurt Clinton and help Trump Sr.

And instead of contacting the FBI, Trump Jrs. response is I'd LOVE that.

Read up on Federal Campaign Rules and Regulations.

Edit to Frown: Trump Jr. released the emails himself because he knew the NYTs had them as were about to release them. And foreign government collusion in a US election is illegal.

**Frownland** · 07-11-2017, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

It's really not even about the Russian chick. It's about someone contacting Trump Jr. with the offer of information to hurt Clinton and help Trump Sr.

And instead of contacting the FBI, Trump Jrs. response is I'd LOVE that.

Read up on Federal Campaign Rules and Regulations.

Oh **** did they give him money? Or do you mean something else? Be more clear please.

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Edit to Frown: Trump Jr. released the emails himself because he knew the NYTs had them as were about to release them.

I'm still wary of its reliability tbh. Could be kompromot.

Chula Vista · 07-11-2017, 12:02 PM

A former Federal Prosecutor summed it up really well a while ago. The rules read "money or other things of value that can influence a campaign". Information to damage your opponent, and aid you, is a thing of value.

And Junior already acknowledged the emails are legit. His defense is that "nothing really came of the meeting, is was basically gibberish".

The Prosecutor used the analogy that "just because you break into a bank and find out there's no money, doesn't absolve you of a crime".

OccultHawk · 07-11-2017, 12:07 PM

Chula

What do you think will happen to Don Jr.?

07-11-2017, 11:46 AM	#5686 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	What do these emails (which may or may not be reliable) provide that is prosecutable? It seems that unless perjury or bribery is involved with this situation, collusion is legal. You could call it treason but that absolutely won't hold up in court let's be honest. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

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Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	A former Federal Prosecutor summed it up really well a while ago. The rules read "money or other things of value that can influence a campaign". Information to damage your opponent, and aid you, is a thing of value. And Junior already acknowledged the emails are legit. His defense is that "nothing really came of the meeting, is was basically gibberish". The Prosecutor used the analogy that "just because you break into a bank and find out there's no money, doesn't absolve you of a crime". __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

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