What Did President Trump Do Now?

Anteater · 06-01-2017, 05:37 PM

I don't think the question is whether climate change is or isn't happening. But the answer to fighting it has less to do with Al Gore and what I quoted before was pointing out and more to do with the continued expansion of renewable energy technologies (which government has very little to do with). Whether or not the U.S. leads that particular effort is of little to no consequence.

I agree that most of the conservatives who won't acknowledge climate change at all need some serious re-education.

Chula Vista · 06-01-2017, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

I don't think the question is whether climate change is or isn't happening. But the answer to fighting it has less to do with Al Gore and what I quoted before was pointing out and more to do with the continued expansion of renewable energy technologies (which government has very little to do with). Whether or not the U.S. leads that particular effort is of little to no consequence.

Oh. My. God. Have you been paying any attention at all to how the rest of the world, and a ****load of US top businesses have reacted to Trump's retarded decision to pull out of the Paris accord? You may have your own opinion but look at the big picture. This is absolutely a terrible move and shows just how much Trump doesn't get it.

The fallout from this will be long term.

Anteater · 06-01-2017, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Oh. My. God. Have you been paying any attention at all to how the rest of the world, and a ****load of US top businesses have reacted to Trump's retarded decision to pull out of the Paris accord? You may have your own opinion but look at the big picture. This is absolutely a terrible move and shows just how much Trump doesn't get it.

The fallout from this will be long term.

His term is gonna be over before we are supposedly even officially pulling out. I guess if he's re-elected at that point you can worry about it then.

Chula Vista · 06-01-2017, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

His term is gonna be over before we are supposedly even officially pulling out. I guess if he's re-elected at that point you can worry about it then.

And yet the fallout has already started. When China and European countries align in condeming a US move, you know it's big.

Lisnaholic · 06-01-2017, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

I don't think the question is whether climate change is or isn't happening. But the answer to fighting it has less to do with Al Gore and what I quoted before was pointing out and more to do with the continued expansion of renewable energy technologies (which government has very little to do with). Whether or not the U.S. leads that particular effort is of little to no consequence.

I agree that most of the conservatives who won't acknowledge climate change at all need some serious re-education.

TBH Anteater, I'm surprised to see you say that it's of little or no consequence whether the U.S. leads the effort to continue the expansion of renewable energy technologies.

Trump's decision to back out of the Paris Agreement is making headline news around the world, and I trust more the (yes, cherry-picked) opinions of these guys as to how important it is, than your suggestion that deciding what America's role will be is "of little or no consequence":-

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Former President Barack Obama, who negotiated the Paris deal for the US:-

"The nations that remain in the Paris Agreement will be the nations that reap the benefits in jobs and industries created."

US Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer:-

"President Trump's decision to withdraw from the Paris Climate Agreement is a devastating failure of historic proportions. Future generations will look back on President Trump's decision as one of the worst policy moves made in the 21st century because of the huge damage to our economy, our environment and our geopolitical standing."

French President Emmanuel Macron:-

"I tell you firmly tonight: We will not renegotiate a less ambitious accord. There is no way. Don't be mistaken on climate; there is no plan B because there is no planet B."

Also, I don't understand why you post a message from an anonymous girl in a bikini who denegrates funding research into addressing climate change as a " shakedown...extracting billions of dollars of taxpayers' money", but then post your own opinion that the way to fight climate change is through "the continued expansion of renewable energy technologies."
Surely, the research of the former leads to the expansion of the latter. A recent example of this quite normal process might be the internet; original research funded by the taxpayer led to a technological expansion of considerable benefit to us all.
If the girl in the bikini is a friend of yours perhaps you'll ask her how she morally justifies scorning the cost of research while enjoying the benefits it brings.

Chula Vista · 06-01-2017, 07:14 PM

Man, this is blowing up big time globaly. The guy appeased his 35% shrinking base while pissing on 190+ plus ally countries.

Countries now opposed to the Paris accord.

Syria
Nicaragua
United States

Mondo Bungle · 06-01-2017, 07:15 PM

Lisnaholic · 06-01-2017, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Man, this is blowing up big time globaly. The guy appeased his 35% shrinking base while pissing on 190+ plus ally countries.

Countries now opposed to the Paris accord.

Syria
Nicaragua
United States

Wow! The USA has just joined a small club with a really embarrassing membership list. I wonder if they'll get invited to Mar-a-Lago to beef up their solidarity together.

The Batlord · 06-01-2017, 07:30 PM

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Wow! The USA has just joined a small club with a really embarrassing membership list. I wonder if they'll get invited to Mar-a-Lago to beef up their solidarity together.

And people wonder why we had Prohibition. Our rednecks are unionized.

Pet_Sounds · 06-01-2017, 08:14 PM

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And people wonder why we had Prohibition. Our rednecks are unionized.

To be fair, I think your rednecks have always brewed their own.

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Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	Man, this is blowing up big time globaly. The guy appeased his 35% shrinking base while pissing on 190+ plus ally countries. Countries now opposed to the Paris accord. Syria Nicaragua United States __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”