What Did President Trump Do Now?

**Frownland** · 04-28-2017, 01:20 PM

I probably agree with their ideas in those articles, but those aren't very reliable sources.

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And it sounds unbelievably **** for a mother to have her child stripped from her when Daddy loses his job

Didn't catch this edit. You're strawmanning the scenario, we were discussing the event of people abusing the system, not every single parent who uses government assistance.

Anteater · 04-28-2017, 01:22 PM

This article. So much. <3

Vice.com - Dislike Trump? Well, Obama Has Always Been Cool with Taking Wall Street Cash

**Frownland** · 04-28-2017, 01:23 PM

It's no revelation that, despite the rhetoric, Dems have a long term and passionate romance with Wall Street.

Isbjørn · 04-28-2017, 01:29 PM

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I probably agree with their ideas in those articles, but those aren't very reliable sources.

You may be right, I've been hearing bad things about the Daily Mail. I rarely read it. The second one has a clear political agenda (which I'm biased towards). I never heard about the last one before. I didn't think too much about it, I just did a quick Google search and read through a couple of articles I found. I'm sure there are many more reliable sources out there supporting the same claims.

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It's no revelation that, despite the rhetoric, Dems have a long term and passionate romance with Wall Street.

How about rejecting both the Dems and the GOP? Just a thought.

Chula Vista · 04-28-2017, 01:36 PM

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This article.

https://www.vice.com/en_us

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Speaking for money is a very large industry. Many people participate in it—journalists, thinkers, college professors, former politicians, consultants of all stripes. Speaking agents routinely field requests from people who are staging events—for profit, for charity, for client entertainment, for education, for employee morale. Many of us, including me, participate in this economy. The fees range all over the place, but it’s extremely lucrative. It’s harder to make more money legally in an hour than you can giving a speech.

The more in-demand you are, the more someone values your presence, the more tickets a producer might be able to sell, the more clients that might be impressed, the greater the entertainment value, the higher the price your agent commands in the market. And, like sports and other entertainment industries, there is a superstar economy. If you’re a company with $50,000 to spend on a speech, you’ll hire Tom Friedman or Malcolm Gladwell. If you have $5,000 or $10,000, you’ll settle for a less luminous nonfiction writer who is an expert on economic and business topics. But there are only so many ex-presidents. So it’s no surprise that the price corporations will pay for Obama, a popular and highly successful ex-president and one of the best orators of our day, is high. There’s a reason Obama’s asking price is $400,000 and George W. Bush gets about $100,000. It’s also no surprise that a firm working in an industry in which conspicuous consumption is a measure of self-worth was the first out of the gate to book Obama.

Even CNN's Republican pundits Kayleigh McEnany and Paris Dennard agreed last night that this is much ado about nothing, and both would do it for a ton less money.

Grasping at straws 101.

**Frownland** · 04-28-2017, 01:43 PM

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I'm sure there are many more reliable sources out there supporting the same claims.

I'm sure of it. I'm just not about that bias, ya know.

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How about rejecting both the Dems and the GOP? Just a thought.

Way ahead of ya. I guess I talk more **** on the Dems here because people have the GOP ****-talking taken care of. Plus, a Democrat was at the point of discussion here.

Isbjørn · 04-28-2017, 01:47 PM

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I'm sure of it. I'm just not about that bias, ya know.

Obvious bias doesn't really support my point, either. But I doubt that the editors of the Daily Mail share my political leanings.

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Way ahead of ya. I guess I talk more **** on the Dems here because people have the GOP ****-talking taken care of. Plus, a Democrat was at the point of discussion here.

I wasn't really directing it at you, it was more of a general remark.

Chula Vista · 04-28-2017, 02:03 PM

To further my point, during Obama's 8 years as President he was a ton more tougher on Wall Street than GWB during his 8 years. He went along with bail outs to fix Bush's wrongs, because every single economic adviser back then were saying that if those firms failed, the entire USA economy would've totally melted down.

He's a private citizen with no power to impact any policy, laws, or influence over Wall Street or big banks. That's Trump's job at the moment. Let's not lose the focus on that.

Private citizen offered $400K to make a speech? No ****ing brainer.

OccultHawk · 04-28-2017, 02:08 PM

The US government should offer free welfare for life for anyone willing to be sterilized before the age of 20.

Instead of rewarding people for having children they can't afford be proactive to prevent it.

**Frownland** · 04-28-2017, 02:10 PM

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To further my point, during Obama's 8 years as President he was a ton more tougher on Wall Street than GWB during his 8 years.

That bar is so low that it's underground.

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Private citizen offered $400K to make a speech? No ****ing brainer.

No brain is what it takes to think that Obama isn't being a hypocrite here.

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	It's no revelation that, despite the rhetoric, Dems have a long term and passionate romance with Wall Street. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

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Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	To further my point, during Obama's 8 years as President he was a ton more tougher on Wall Street than GWB during his 8 years. He went along with bail outs to fix Bush's wrongs, because every single economic adviser back then were saying that if those firms failed, the entire USA economy would've totally melted down. He's a private citizen with no power to impact any policy, laws, or influence over Wall Street or big banks. That's Trump's job at the moment. Let's not lose the focus on that. Private citizen offered $400K to make a speech? No ****ing brainer. __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

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OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,006	The US government should offer free welfare for life for anyone willing to be sterilized before the age of 20. Instead of rewarding people for having children they can't afford be proactive to prevent it.