What Did President Trump Do Now?

djchameleon · 04-13-2017, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

Russia and Iran are pretty pissed about the red line being crossed and for good reason

With Trump in charge I feel like the evil empire and I'm rooting for the ragtag other side

Or maybe I should say even more the evil empire

I think this is all posturing. Russia isn't really pissed off. They are only putting on that act to take the heat off of how friendly Trump is with Russia and all the investigations that are currently going on. They are still close and buddy buddy. We even warned Russia about the attacks before they happened so that they could pass the info onto Syria. It's the main reason the base we attacked the **** out of was fully operational like two days after.

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Originally Posted by Frownland

What's not to get? Both our wings are conservative.

No, more like one of our wings is conservative and the other is moderate but likes to argue that they are completely on the left and don't want to cooperate with the conservatives.

Chula Vista · 04-13-2017, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Funniest bit is that you don't think fake pandering news happens on the left just because it's popular on the right too.

Dumbass - he said that the media has a liberal bias. I didn't say anything about only the right having fake news. Nice try and putting words in my mouth though.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 04-13-2017, 11:15 AM

Not sure where to post so I'll post it here.

US drops 'mother of all bombs' on IS-held caves in Afghanistan

**Frownland** · 04-13-2017, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Dumbass - he said that the media has a liberal bias. I didn't say anything about only the right having fake news. Nice try and putting words in my mouth though.

Calling me a dumbass is simply projection. Read Lucem's post again mate.

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

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2nd is there are too many lying news outlets that pander to the liberal crowd with bull**** on facebook.

To which you replied

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Fox News has higher ratings than CNN and MSNBC combined. Where do the sheep roost?

As if because it happens on the right it doesn't happen on the left. I'll let you get back to jerking yourself off though.

Chula Vista · 04-13-2017, 12:29 PM

Hope you didn't waste too much of your day crafting that retort. My point still stands.

**Frownland** · 04-13-2017, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Hope you didn't waste too much of your day crafting that retort. My ****ty, irrelevant point still stands.

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Trollheart · 04-13-2017, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

What's not to get? Both our wings are conservative.

Never heard of that. So there is no left wing in the US?

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Nah bombing Japan was some dick waving to scare off Russia (which backfired). We were incredibly close to winning that front anyways. Plus, the whackily loyal Japs and the whole concept that the bombing saved more lives than it cost is pure grade USDA approved organic bull****. It really was a swimmingly smooth propaganda campaign though, look at how popular both of these ideas are.

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Originally Posted by duga

The military leaders of Japan wanted to continue the war, but the emperor wanted it to end. Before the bomb was dropped, he was hoping to negotiate a peaceful surrender. That was the whole point of the US insisting that the Soviet Union declare war on them. Truman decided he wanted to show off how big the US's dick was and went ahead and dropped the bomb, even though the war was all but over. This, combined with Truman backing out of a lot of the concessions made to the Soviet Union between Stalin and FDR, essentially started the Cold War.

Edit: Just saw Frownland talked about this.

Yeah but I disagree with you both. The Allies wanted unconditional surrender, and the Japanese military command were worried that this might not exclude the execution of the emperor. As he was/is seen as divine, this would be the ultimate humilation and they vowed to fight on (or, more accurately, have their people fight on) to the end. They were definitely preparing to meet a US invasion; they were training civilians in the art of laying down their lives for the emperor.

duga · 04-13-2017, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Yeah but I disagree with you both. The Allies wanted unconditional surrender, and the Japanese military command were worried that this might not exclude the execution of the emperor. As he was/is seen as divine, this would be the ultimate humilation and they vowed to fight on (or, more accurately, have their people fight on) to the end. They were definitely preparing to meet a US invasion; they were training civilians in the art of laying down their lives for the emperor.

Again, the military wanted to keep going - even after surrender, many of them committed suicide on the spot because they were so ashamed. Aside from the military, Japan knew they were done in the days leading up to the bomb being dropped. The political leaders were essentially begging the Soviet Union to act as a middle-man to broker a peace with the allies. After the Soviets declared war on them ending their neutrality pact in an effort to secure an unconditional surrender, essentially the ONLY concession they wanted was for the imperial family to live. Truman just wasn't having it.

Chula Vista · 04-13-2017, 01:18 PM

Holy Moly. The goalposts have been majorly moved.

First on CNN: US drops largest non-nuclear bomb in Afghanistan - CNNPolitics.com

21,000 pound bomb. That's like 70 Frowland's.

**Frownland** · 04-13-2017, 01:20 PM

I rate it 4/10

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Never heard of that. So there is no left wing in the US?

Yeah but I disagree with you both. The Allies wanted unconditional surrender, and the Japanese military command were worried that this might not exclude the execution of the emperor. As he was/is seen as divine, this would be the ultimate humilation and they vowed to fight on (or, more accurately, have their people fight on) to the end. They were definitely preparing to meet a US invasion; they were training civilians in the art of laying down their lives for the emperor.

Ja that sounds a lot like the propaganda points I mentioned earlier.

Check this out: Hiroshima: Breaking the Silence

04-13-2017, 12:29 PM	#3985 (permalink)
Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	Hope you didn't waste too much of your day crafting that retort. My point still stands. __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

04-13-2017, 01:18 PM	#3989 (permalink)
Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	Holy Moly. The goalposts have been majorly moved. First on CNN: US drops largest non-nuclear bomb in Afghanistan - CNNPolitics.com 21,000 pound bomb. That's like 70 Frowland's. __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

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~~Cuthbert~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Black Country Posts: 8,827	Not sure where to post so I'll post it here. US drops 'mother of all bombs' on IS-held caves in Afghanistan