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Old 04-11-2017, 01:12 PM   #3921 (permalink)
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Actually I've been looking at historians and political scientists who predicted the victory and they say it had nothing to do with Trump or Hillary and everything to do with the classic question

"are you better off now than you were 4 years ago"

So yeah maybe blame Obama's limp wristed neoliberalism go figure
I think it's a bit more nuanced than that. To a conservative, the answer would almost assuredly be "no", just like the answer was "no" for liberals at the end of Bush's administration. This time around for liberals, the answer was "meh, wasn't too bad". That, combined with the incredible lack of excitement for Hillary and the very intense "no" coming from the right pretty much ensured a republican victory. I was worried about this the whole time, but held out hope that people could see just how bad Trump would be that they wouldn't elect him.

This has been how our country operates every cycle and why we've more or less taken turns in who has the power every 4-8 years. It's just that this time we really couldn't afford to "take turns". Alas, the left gets wayy too complacent.
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Old 04-11-2017, 01:12 PM   #3922 (permalink)
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"are you better off now than you were 4 years ago"
Weird thing is, I was. The value of my home and my 401K were both way up. Finance rates were ridiculoulsy low as were gas prices. Other than BENGHAZI!!!!!! things were "relatively" quiet on the world stage, and The Backstreet Boys had reformed and started touring again.

Salad days man.

Salad days.
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Old 04-11-2017, 01:15 PM   #3923 (permalink)
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Ok, lame. But still kinda funny and spot on.
The one thing I really kinda despise is the cronyism clearly happening before our eyes. Case in point, Jared fucking Kushner. Fuck that guy.
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Old 04-11-2017, 01:21 PM   #3924 (permalink)
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Total silver spoon dude. Oh, and his uber-rich dad?

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In 2005, following an investigation by the U.S. Attorney's Office for the District of New Jersey, U.S. Attorney Chris Christie negotiated a plea agreement with Kushner, under which he pleaded guilty to 18 counts of illegal campaign contributions, tax evasion, and witness tampering. The witness-tampering charge arose from Kushner's act of retaliation against William Schulder, his sister Esther's husband, who was cooperating with federal investigators.

Kushner hired a prostitute to seduce his brother-in-law, arranged to record an encounter between the two, and had the tape sent to his sister. Kushner was sentenced to two years in prison and served 14 months at Federal Prison Camp, Montgomery in Alabama before being sent to a halfway house in Newark, New Jersey to complete his sentence. He was released from prison on August 25, 2006.

As a result of his convictions, Kushner was disbarred from practicing law in New Jersey, New York, and Pennsylvania.
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This is the sort of cocoon Democrats wrapped themselves in while Flint drank poison water and what used to be the middle class was shooting up heroin
BS. Don't lump me in with the Dems who are on autopilot. I'm fully engaged and informed.
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BS. Don't lump me in with the Dems who are on autopilot. I'm fully engaged and informed.
Beyond what directly affects you and what Donald Trump had for breakfast today?
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Beyond what directly affects you.
Please. I've expounded on my political, personal, ideological, and philisophical views here a number of times. Again, stop trying to lump me in with some sort of autopilot norm.
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Complacency is definitely part of it, but is it any surprise so many voted for Trump secretly when people along these lines predominate a big chunk of the media?

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I think the media are really made up more of boring, upper middle class, white people in ugly suits who no one listens to in the first place.
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