What Did President Trump Do Now?

Chula Vista · 02-15-2017, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

So it's racist when Donald Trump does it, but not when Obama signed a bill that spent $600 million to reinforce the border?

My argument was addressing the question: is the policy racist? Not, is Donald Trump racist?

I really think you're missing the forest for the trees on this one. Trump didn't campaign on reinforcing borders. He campaigned on THE WALL.

You remember the rallies, right?

Trump: What are we going to do?
Crowd: BUILD A WALL!!!!!
Trump: And who's going to pay for it?
Crowd: MEXICO!!!!!!

Lucem Ferre · 02-15-2017, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

Anyway the reason the US doesn't deport more is because it's already expensive as all hell to track down and deport over 1k people a day

35 people must be a breeze and Canada could certainly deport more, but I doubt they actually give a ****

Cause they don't have massive amounts of illegal immigrants. Estimated. In 2003 I guess. It's such not a problem that they don't even keep track. Probably because it's harder to do it there.

It'd be much less expensive to, I don't know, prevent them from coming in. Right?

Lucem Ferre · 02-15-2017, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

I really think you're missing the forest for the trees on this one. Trump didn't campaign on reinforcing borders. He campaigned on THE WALL.

You remember the rallies, right?

Trump: What are we going to do?
Crowd: BUILD A WALL!!!!!
Trump: And who's going to pay for it?
Crowd: MEXICO!!!!!!

Just because racists support the policy doesn't mean the policy is racist.

Lucem Ferre · 02-15-2017, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

actually definitively no.

This is why I post a map

I really don't think you understand distance

You know how many jobs it could create to strengthen border control? Not necessarily a stupid wall, but just stronger border control?

Chula Vista · 02-15-2017, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

Just because racists support the policy doesn't mean the policy is racist.

Putting the cart in front of the horse, eh?

Chula Vista · 02-15-2017, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

You know how many jobs it could create to strengthen border control? Not necessarily a stupid wall, but just stronger border control?

Border Patrol is already one of the largest agencies in the US.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United..._Border_Patrol

You see them all over the place here in San Diego. For every one cop, I'll see a dozen border patrol agents.

People really need to take some time and study the actual border. 95% of it is in the middle of nowhere through desert, mountains, rivers, and complete wasteland.

DwnWthVwls · 02-15-2017, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Trump didn't campaign on reinforcing borders. He campaigned on THE WALL.

What's the difference? They are literally the exact same thing. It's a campaign tactic, the people at the rally didn't get excited he was building a wall.. They got excited he was building a wall that reinforced a border where most of our illegal immigration comes from.

I'm not supporting him. I'm not saying it wasn't distasteful. I'm saying "improving" our borders to reduce illegal immigration is not racist. I already admitted I'm not sure how much of a problem illegal immigration creates, but the common consensus is that it is a problem, so he took that ideology and built a campaign around it. There is nothing inherently racist about that, regardless if he is a racist, the policy addresses problems with immigration.

DwnWthVwls · 02-15-2017, 10:12 PM

Yeh and? You're still addressing Trump. For the last time, I don't care about Trump. I care about policy. Show me how bolstering a preexisting structure, that no one ever thought about before the Trump campaign, is racist.

Lucem Ferre · 02-15-2017, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

We could create thousands of jobs by paying people to hold your dick for you while you piss but that doesn't mean it's a good use of money

We have enough government paid dick-holders in the military

I'm flattered you think that, but no, I don't have an elephant dick.

It's a good use of money to people that think immigration is a problem. People that think illegal immigrants are taking jobs, not paying taxes, receiving more benefits, etc. I'm not gonna argue this because it's a fickle situation and I don't know a god damn thing about the economic impact of illegal immigration or the cost of stricter border control.

Chula Vista · 02-15-2017, 10:15 PM

Ya, I gotta ask too DWV. Are you simply acting obtuse just to further the conversation?

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politi...n-racism-power

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Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	Ya, I gotta ask too DWV. Are you simply acting obtuse just to further the conversation? http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politi...n-racism-power __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”