Lucem Ferre

Yeah, pay attention, get on my level.

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DwnWthVwls

Okay and that's fine. I'm not blind to reality, but don't you think we should be working towards practical ways of not relying on them while simultaneously tackling the problem of illegal immigration?

"It's dysfunctional, but it works, so let's just leave it be". We should always be seeking to improve out situation.

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Chula Vista

Sure, but "THE WALL" is not a practical start. Don't throw out the baby with the bath water.

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DwnWthVwls

If you bothered reading any of the previous discussion, I said on more than one occasion I thought the wall was a stupid idea. My only argument was to stop giving Anteater ****, because the wall itself is not racist. Also, as I said to Trollheart, I'm not gonna repeat my entire argument, but if you'd like to dig through and bring up something that I possibly over looked or you feel I didn't make a good enough case for then feel free.

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Chula Vista

But the concept of the wall, as used by Trump on the campaign trail, is completely racist and xenophobic.

We can agree to disagree on that but I'm surprised you don't comprehend this.

And I've read the entire discussion. Don't condescend.

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Lucem Ferre

That is 100% True. I'm sure not all the wall supporters are racist. Some of them are just stupid.

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DwnWthVwls

So it's racist when Donald Trump does it, but not when Obama signed a bill that spent $600 million to reinforce the border?

My argument was addressing the question: is the policy racist? Not, is Donald Trump racist?

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Lucem Ferre

Link? Cause if it's anything like that 97% scientist consensus on global warming it's bull****. Because they have NEVER officially polled scientists. I mean, yeah, you'll have a hard time finding a climate scientist or meteorologist that doesn't believe that climate change is a man made threat, but that consensus number is bull****.

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Lucem Ferre

It's not that he wanted to do it that makes him racist. It's the context he gave that made him racist. The idea is not racist, but the motives for the idea were.

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Chula Vista

Most definitely. I've noted this before, I have a 30 year old nephew back east who told me he'd pay for two walls just to keep his family safe. I asked him why he was so afraid living 3,000 miles from Mexico when I've spent the last 20 years living less than 3 miles from Mexico and have not once been scared. He has yet to reply.

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and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”