What Did President Trump Do Now?

Lucem Ferre · 02-15-2017, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

Better stop now. You're making sense and will be labeled a racist by MB.

Yeah, I've seen the jokes these people laugh at.

And I also don't care. On half thinks I'm racist, the other thinks I'm an SJW. I'm just somebody that thinks for them self. I know, it's rare to see.

Lucem Ferre · 02-15-2017, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Totally. However, our immigration system is unnecessarily difficult to navigate, especially for people in an unstable situation. We need help policy reform, and a wall is not it.

I didn't say I support a wall. A wall is ****ing stupid.

Our immigration laws are confusing, but most countries just won't take people if their situation is unstable. Like Canada, you have to have a certain amount of money and some kind of skills proving that you can make it in the work force.

DwnWthVwls · 02-15-2017, 07:56 PM

Like usual you leave shit out to make yourself look good, but you're forgetting the very important word, ILLEGAL.

Lucem Ferre · 02-15-2017, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

No because the line of reasoning to push immigration as "bad" is

1. always ridiculous/completely incompatible with what we know

2. in itself ****ing racist

No, it's not racist in it's self. You know, when you call things racist that aren't really racist you demean the things that really are racist and take the focus away from them. It's disgusting. It's like whiny bitches claiming or self diagnosing themselves with mental illness because they think it's cool or they need to be a victim.

Also, it's not about immigration. It's about illegal immigration. Which has less to do with race and more to do with the people living here contributing to society. You think illegal immigrants get properly trained or supervised when doing work? You think they pay taxes to contribute to the country? Do you think they get drafted to war? Or have to do jury duty?

Lucem Ferre · 02-15-2017, 08:08 PM

Why do you think Canada requires people to have job skills before they can immigrate? Is that racist?

DwnWthVwls · 02-15-2017, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

you think they'd be totally fine with immigration if we had an open door policy?

hey now it doesn't break the law cool

Yes, because if that were the case we'd have systems in place that supported it. We wouldn't have 1000s of people mooching off a system they don't contribute to. I love how you shit all over rich people dodging taxes, but when the poor illegal immigrants do it because they are trying to find a better life than it's justifiable. Not it isn't, they are still a burden to the people who took appropriate steps and contribute to society. They are both harmful in different ways, you just happen to despise one group and have sympathy for another which hinders your ability to think rationally. The difference is I don't let my bias get in the way of logic when addressing the situation.

I fear for the future of America if you're writing policy. You can't even form a complete sentence or fully develop a thought, nor do you have any interest in actually having a conversation. You're a contradictorian

and more dangerous than Trump.

Lucem Ferre · 02-15-2017, 08:12 PM

How much money do you think it'd cost us to train immigrants on how to adapt to our country and our workforce so they can be productive members of society compared to making sure they have all of that already before taking them in?

**Frownland** · 02-15-2017, 08:13 PM

Poor people not paying taxes has such an immensely smaller impact on the budget than rich people not paying taxes. Right?

**Frownland** · 02-15-2017, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

Do you support mandatory abortions for all poor people?

They just using resources right

don't want them breeding

Hell yes I do.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 02-15-2017, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

No but it's also not really true

I literally just filled out an application/survey to immigrate to Canada and I would qualify

qualifying doesnt mean you'll get accepted. we have a pretty notoriously picky system. even once you do get accepted they're pretty relentless with their follow up.

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