What Did President Trump Do Now?

**Frownland** · 02-15-2017, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

General Population Law of Mexico translation:
https://www.wilsoncenter.org/sites/d...0KOSLOWSKI.pdf

Your anecdotal evidence showing they don't deport Americans does not equal nonexistent immigration policies.. The US has a "problem" with Mexicans, Mexico has a "problem" with Central Americans..

https://www.wola.org/2015/05/border-...order-efforts/ - these are minors fleeing from bad situations and they are still being deported.

I change my answer to them being racist.

Trollheart · 02-15-2017, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

Well for one muslim isn't a race.. and 2 there is already a fucking wall. He wants to bolster something that already exists to prevent a problem that the US has accepted as a problem for a long time. Just because he ran his campaign on it that had all the biggest pieces of shit in America flocking to him, doesn't make either of those policies racist in and of themselves. Do Mexico and Canada not have policies that prevent us from sneaking in and living there illegally?

You're just splitting hairs now. Sure, Muslims are not a race, but his policy is predicated on the (totally false) idea or fear that Muslims will be carrying bombs into the USA or are all arriving with the intention of committing terrorist acts. Gypsies aren't a race either, and though I hesitate to use the H word, it doesn't make Adolf not a racist that he targeted them along with Jews and other "inferiors".

Also, do you not consider the walls erected in Serbia, Hungary and other European countries to keep out the immigrants racist, because I certainly do. I don't see any real difference between that and this Mexican Wall. Whether there's one there or not is not the issue: the fact that he wants to expand it AND make them pay for the ****ing thing is not only racist but totally arrogant. I mean, back before 1990 would you have considered then East Germany racist if they had expanded the Berlin Wall, built it higher? Just because a bad thing is there already, doesn't make adding to it any less reprehensible.

DwnWthVwls · 02-15-2017, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

I change my answer to them being racist.

Lol. I hate you. It's not racist you ass. You have to assess what your economy and social systems can handle. If an overwhelming amount of immigration is hurting a country it only makes sense to try and prevent it to better establish themselves.

To steal an analogy from someone:

You have 2 people. 1 is starving and the other has only enough food not to starve. Do you take food from the starving person? If you do neither will live. Yes, it's better to share the wealth, but not if you're making the situation worse for everyone instead of just one party. That's illogical.

How does the saying go? Cutting off your nose to spite your face?

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

You're just splitting hairs now. Sure, Muslims are not a race, but his policy is predicated on the (totally false) idea or fear that Muslims will be carrying bombs into the USA or are all arriving with the intention of committing terrorist acts. Gypsies aren't a race either, and though I hesitate to use the H word, it doesn't make Adolf not a racist that he targeted them along with Jews and other "inferiors".

Also, do you not consider the walls erected in Serbia, Hungary and other European countries to keep out the immigrants racist, because I certainly do. I don't see any real difference between that and this Mexican Wall. Whether there's one there or not is not the issue: the fact that he wants to expand it AND make them pay for the ****ing thing is not only racist but totally arrogant. I mean, back before 1990 would you have considered then East Germany racist if they had expanded the Berlin Wall, built it higher? Just because a bad thing is there already, doesn't make adding to it any less reprehensible.

Sorry Troll. Thank you for the response but I already addressed this in the convo I had since you posted your original comment. You can go back and read my arguments, and if you'd like to offer a counter point (that I have not considered) I'd be more than happy to talk it through with you.