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Old 02-06-2017, 09:13 AM   #1961 (permalink)
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Old 02-06-2017, 09:26 AM   #1962 (permalink)
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Why exactly is Sam Harris such a pos? I haven't seen much from him, but he seems pretty reasonable from what I have.
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Old 02-06-2017, 10:16 AM   #1963 (permalink)
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Why exactly is Sam Harris such a pos? I haven't seen much from him, but he seems pretty reasonable from what I have.
Those two Bill Maher clips are the only videos I've seen from him. Can't say I disagree with anything he said in either one.
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Old 02-06-2017, 11:57 AM   #1964 (permalink)
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Why exactly is Sam Harris such a pos? I haven't seen much from him, but he seems pretty reasonable from what I have.
He wouldn't bother you if you agree with his views on Islams and Muslims in general.

Whenever him and Bill get together they always get under my skin with inaccurate **** that they say. The worse part is like it's not like they don't talk to Muslims where they can find out accurate information it's just that they like to stay willfully ignorant about certain things.

Here's a specific example, when the topic of the Burqa came up. Their minds are only wrapped around women being forced to wear them and not the fact that the women willingly want to wear them.

Also when they decided to bring up the fact that radical Muslims aren't fringe just because it is such a large number. They are still fringe in comparison to the billion of Muslims around the way. So what if they have a fringe army. When you have billions of people practicing one religion a fringe group of radicals can be larger.
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Here's a specific example, when the topic of the Burqa came up. Their minds are only wrapped around women being forced to wear them and not the fact that the women willingly want to wear them.
Translation: all white women have internalized misogyny, but all brown women don't.
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DJ i think you're the one being ignorant on the topic... the point is that no culture or belief system should force an individual to act or dress a certain way because of their sex. it's not about whether they want to, it's about them being forced to.
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DJ i think you're the one being ignorant on the topic... the point is that no culture or belief system should force an individual to act or dress a certain way because of their sex. it's not about whether they want to, it's about them being forced to.
Sure. But if they want to wear it, let them wear it. Forcing them not to wear it is the same thing as forcing them to wear it. You can't change some people. The work should go towards changing the law not changing the people. The women who get attacked for wearing their burqa or hijab are victims of a hate crime no matter how the assh*le attacking them feels about the laws. Violence is violence. It solves nothing.
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Old 02-06-2017, 01:18 PM   #1968 (permalink)
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I honestly wasn't sure.
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i dont think DJ was necessarily saying they shouldnt have a say either. just a tough issue all around because obviously there's no good in going from one extreme to the other.
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