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Anteater · 01-27-2017, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

What about National Parks? What about the Smithsonian Institute?

National parks count as the arts? Interesting.

Chula Vista · 01-27-2017, 08:14 PM

I consider this art. Half Dome: Yosemite National Park.

grindy · 01-27-2017, 08:17 PM

And yet you don't consider 4'33'' to be music...

**Frownland** · 01-27-2017, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by grindy

And yet you don't consider 4'33'' to be music...

Beat me to it.

DwnWthVwls · 01-27-2017, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Luxuries? They are just classes. And most High Schools in this country have sports, art, and drama electives. Exactly what are you all up in arms about here? That the Government affords a tiny piece of their budget to preserving the arts?

WTF?

I'm not up in arms, I already said more than once that I agree with you. Electives are luxuries.. As I said, I grew up in a small town with very few electives, especially compared to the rich, blue ribbon schools in the surrounding towns. School is set up to provide us with a basic understanding of 4 subjects: english, math, science, and history (maybe 5 with the push for secondary languages nowadays).. anything schools offer beyond that is a luxury. They are not "just classes", computers cost money, software licensing costs money, musical instruments and sports equipment cost money... You asked me if I would be upset if they cut a particular program and my answer was no. I understand that not every school can afford to offer the same things as one another and like I said there is no government program that assists in making that happen..

Chula Vista · 01-27-2017, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by grindy

And yet you don't consider 4'33'' to be music...

It's silence presented as art.

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

I'm not up in arms, I already said more than once that I agree with you. Electives are luxuries.. As I said, I grew up in a small town with very few electives, especially compared to the rich, blue ribbon schools in the surrounding towns.

Electives doesn't mean a school is blue ribbon. I grew up in a small town too. I'd be willing to bet that a vast majority of high schools in the US offer sports and arts programs. You're making it sound like it's some sort of privileged thing. It's not. It's common place. Your school just flat out sucked.

Just looked it up:

As of 2014 there were 14,048 High Schools in the US that had football programs. That's an average of 281 per state. Not exactly exclusive.

DwnWthVwls · 01-27-2017, 09:15 PM

Can you stop getting hung up on the word luxury and try to understand my point. Electives ARE extra.. They are not a baseline, and every school offers them in different amounts. I chose luxury, pick a word you think is more fitting, idc, that has nothing to do with the point I was making. I really don't even know what this has to do with the points I was making about Goofle anymore, and since you can't seem to let it go, I'm willing to respond, but it's probably better in PMs as to not take away from the thread.

Chula Vista · 01-27-2017, 09:35 PM

The opinions and ideologies that Goffle's been projecting around here lately I find offensive. Bottom line. I'm gonna come back on him every time he makes posts like he's been doing.

I find the arts important. I thinking funding them is important to US culture. If someone thinks otherwise I'm gonna speak my mind.

**Frownland** · 01-28-2017, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Just looked it up:

As of 2014 there were 14,048 High Schools in the US that had football programs. That's an average of 281 per state. Not exactly exclusive.

Out of how many schools though? Sounds like there's room ft improvement there.

DwnWthVwls · 01-28-2017, 01:20 AM

The data is a dated, but even if it decreased by a few thousand it's still a disparity...

https://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/li...s/hsfacts.html

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Number of Institutions

Across the United States there are 26,407 public secondary schools and 10,693 private secondary schools. (Digest of Education Statistics, 2001, Table 89)
In 1999-2000, the states with the largest number of public secondary schools were California, Texas, Illinois, Ohio, and New York. (Digest of Education Statistics, 2001, Table 101)

The national rankings include more than 21,000 high schools, but I can't find exact numbers.

http://www.usnews.com/education/best...ional-rankings

01-27-2017, 08:14 PM	#1492 (permalink)
Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	I consider this art. Half Dome: Yosemite National Park. __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

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01-27-2017, 09:35 PM	#1498 (permalink)
Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	The opinions and ideologies that Goffle's been projecting around here lately I find offensive. Bottom line. I'm gonna come back on him every time he makes posts like he's been doing. I find the arts important. I thinking funding them is important to US culture. If someone thinks otherwise I'm gonna speak my mind. __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”