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The government's role is to NOT EXIST!

Nailed it.

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Chula Vista

It's really very simple and not condescending at all:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...s_Constitution


Read it sometime.

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DwnWthVwls

I guess what I'm getting at is: there are different ways to provide welfare, and on that long list, art is not near the top or nearly as objectively important as something like healthcare. I think you guys have gotten so used to pissing on Goofle that anything he says gets your panties in a bunch.

Edit: I'm not agreeing with him that we shouldn't fund it, I'm just saying if we needed funding, I think it's reasonable that it's the first thing to go. We don't have an unlimited supply of money, so if he thinks there are more important things that contribute to welfare that push arts off the list, I don't think that's unreasonable.

I'm good.

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Chula Vista

But it still belongs on the list. Did your High School have a liberal arts program? Did it have a HS band? An art class? An acting or dramatic arts class?

Did you take part in any of it? Either way, imagine you got a kid who's about to enter High School and word comes down that they are eliminating all liberal arts programs. Wouldn't that bug you?

Goofle has been coming across these past few months as a totally self centered person who doesn't give a crap about anyone who doesn't fit into his narrow view of the world. Translation: DICK.

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DwnWthVwls

Liberal arts is a catch all term for general education (in my experience) so cutting it would mean bye bye english, math, history, etc... it doesn't actually have to do with art specifically.

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Also, read my edit.

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Chula Vista

Fair enough. Now answer the rest of my questions.

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DwnWthVwls

I understand that Elph, it was just an example. I just think he's got everybody on the defensive all the time and it detracts from promoting discussion or asking challenging questions.

For instance:
@Goofle
-If the funding is readily available do you still think the government should exclude it?
-Are there things currently not being funded that you think should have priority over the arts?

What's the rest of your question? K-12 in general is liberal arts.. so yeh if they cut funding there would be no school. Would I be mad if they cut band or something specific? Not really, I went to a tiny school and we didn't have **** for elective options, it's not like there is a program currently in place that affords the luxuries you're describing to every school system in America.

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Anteater

I love the 80's.

Anyhoo, I don't think the arts or funding related to the arts makes any sense at the federal level. State level perhaps, but federal? Nah. Unless they decided to fund a prog. rock supergroup or something. That would be rad.

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Chula Vista

Luxuries? They are just classes. And most High Schools in this country have sports, art, and drama electives. Exactly what are you all up in arms about here? That the Government affords a tiny piece of their budget to preserving the arts?

WTF?

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Chula Vista

That's become blatantly obvious of late.

What about National Parks? What about the Smithsonian Institute?

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