What Did President Trump Do Now?

**Frownland** · 01-26-2017, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

So how is this different than service denial because of dress codes at someplace fancy?

You can change what you wear in less than five minutes.

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or sex discrimination at nightclub entrances?

This is a good point.

**Janszoon** · 01-26-2017, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

So how is this different than service denial because of dress codes at someplace fancy? or sex discrimination at nightclub entrances?

I've been denied service for both. Sorry, but I'm with Qwerty, I'd rather know and be able to show my support or lack of. The problem is how functional would it be in the real world? Yeh, there would be racist areas booming with racist customers.. I really don't have a problem with that, let them all cluster together, fuck their cousins (hehe), and create subculture pockets throughout the US, while the rest of us rational minded non-bigoted individuals share this country with each other. I'd rather let them deny service and then deny them of government privileges and hit them with penalties than out right say, "NO you can't do that".

Again, I feel like a broken record, but this is a problem that needs to be taken into the hands of the American citizens. Let the peaceful protests and boycotts begin. If businesses like this are successful, we know who to blame. Weed out the fuckery. I only support government intervention for ish like this when it is necessary, if someone would like to enlighten me with a study or well written objective article that explains why I'm wrong, I'm open to it.

The reason we have the laws in the first place is because the approach you're describing doesn't work.

Chula Vista · 01-26-2017, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

The reason we have the laws in the first place is because the approach you're describing doesn't work.

Was ready to type out a long winded response, but Jansz nailed it.

DwnWthVwls · 01-26-2017, 03:53 PM

It didn't work back in the day when the majority of the country was racist, but it's much different today. I'm not gonna sit here and pretend like we still don't have a ways to go, but we have made a lot of social progress, so I question if it would still function the same.

Chula Vista · 01-26-2017, 04:01 PM

At this point in history, it's not even racism anymore. It's an inflated US vs THEM mentality.

In the 60s it was easy to pit WHITE vs BLK.

Now, it's all about conservative privileged/rich vs. anyone threatening their turf.

**Frownland** · 01-26-2017, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

So how is this different than service denial because of dress codes at someplace fancy? or sex discrimination at nightclub entrances?

I've been denied service for both. Sorry, but I'm with Qwerty, I'd rather know and be able to show my support or lack of. The problem is how functional would it be in the real world? Yeh, there would be racist areas booming with racist customers.. I really don't have a problem with that, let them all cluster together, fuck their cousins (hehe), and create subculture pockets throughout the US, while the rest of us rational minded non-bigoted individuals share this country with each other. I'd rather let them deny service and then deny them of government privileges and hit them with penalties than out right say, "NO you can't do that".

Again, I feel like a broken record, but this is a problem that needs to be taken into the hands of the American citizens. Let the peaceful protests and boycotts begin. If businesses like this are successful, we know who to blame. Weed out the fuckery. I only support government intervention for ish like this when it is necessary, if someone would like to enlighten me with a study or well written objective article that explains why I'm wrong, I'm open to it.

What wrong comes from enforcing the laws as opposed to allowing it to work itself out?

The Batlord · 01-26-2017, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

At this point in history, it's not even racism anymore. It's an inflated US vs THEM mentality.

In the 60s it was easy to pit WHITE vs BLK.

Now, it's all about conservative privileged/rich vs. anyone threatening their turf.

Clearly there are more than enough partisan jackasses in all walks of life.

**Frownland** · 01-26-2017, 04:58 PM

I'm conflicted because on one hand it's low as **** to go after someone's kids but on the other hand, this made me lol so it's tough.

Psy-Fi · 01-26-2017, 05:03 PM

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It'll either be a priority shift or the death of the GOP.

I'd be willing to bet it won't be either one.

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I can't stop laughing....

"The kids made me a shiv and, I mean, I'm not afraid to use it."

DwnWthVwls · 01-26-2017, 06:47 PM

^The bigboy shirt comment and Bush.. haha

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What wrong comes from enforcing the laws as opposed to allowing it to work itself out?

Fair question, and at it's core I suppose nothing. As you know from past conversations I just prefer putting accountability on people when it comes to doing the right thing and creating social change. As I said, if function is possible without government intervention I prefer it be that way. Also, I think it's important to restrict government power during times when the government has a history(and no signs of changing) of protecting its' own interests and the interests of those who fund it over the majority.

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Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	At this point in history, it's not even racism anymore. It's an inflated US vs THEM mentality. In the 60s it was easy to pit WHITE vs BLK. Now, it's all about conservative privileged/rich vs. anyone threatening their turf. __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	I'm conflicted because on one hand it's low as **** to go after someone's kids but on the other hand, this made me lol so it's tough. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x