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Old 01-23-2017, 12:06 PM   #1251 (permalink)
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1. I'm pretty sure you mean Reagan, not Clinton.


2. Uh huh. What superior media did you find this out from?
1. Nope, definitely Clinton.

Are the Clintons the real housing crash villains? - CNBC

2. Reuters is defending the photo, but there's no way to verify it. It screams fishy.

Trump supporters claim ‘fake news’ over crowd size with photo evidence | The Mercury
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Old 01-23-2017, 12:16 PM   #1252 (permalink)
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1. It's almost like it was an amalgation of several different presidents' policies that created the atmosphere for the recession.

2. It is interesting that only one photo was taken of the inaugural crowd. I noted earlier that this ranks the dumbest hot topic in political media history.
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Old 01-23-2017, 01:04 PM   #1253 (permalink)
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1. Nope, definitely Clinton.

Are the Clintons the real housing crash villains? - CNBC

2. Reuters is defending the photo, but there's no way to verify it. It screams fishy.

Trump supporters claim ‘fake news’ over crowd size with photo evidence | The Mercury
The photo was shot earlier in the day. If you take a look at photos shot from the stage out you can see that his inauguration was as large of an audience as previous times.
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Old 01-23-2017, 01:08 PM   #1254 (permalink)
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That could be a misleading perspective, js.

And now for some good news (TPP only, not the other two orders mentioned)
Trump signs order withdrawing U.S. from Trans-Pacific trade deal | Reuters
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There's a case to be made that banking deregulations done under Clinton's administration was what made the collapse so bad

But what's described in that article is mostly nonsense trying to find a way to spin a collapse that was caused by a lack of regulation in a period of massive deregulation as somehow caused by gov interference
Is there any sort of economic/political equivalent to scientific peer reviewed articles? How the hell do you find reliable sources for this kind of crap?
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Is there any sort of economic/political equivalent to scientific peer reviewed articles?
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How the hell do you find reliable sources for this kind of crap?
You can't. I think the best approach is to look at what's being reported across the board, try to find the origin of the story, and compare it all to affirm whatever idea you already believe.
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Cant say im surprised.
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Reagan's trickle down economic policies and massive de-regulations of big banks and Wall Street were definitely the main starting point for what cultivated the 2008 collapse. Trickle down was a massive failure a deregulation allowed the banks and brokers to run around like kids in a candy store with a MORE MORE MORE giddy mentality. Clinton and Bush definitely added to things but by then the banks and wall street were not going to stop their evil ways - damn any torpedoes. They have two of the largest, powerful, and influential lobbies in Washington. This is from the 1987 movie Wall Street for anyone not familiar. These were the types on dudes that Reagan empowered while removing any restraint from how they did business.



And this directly related to how the crash went down.

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This is all true but let's not forget that Bill Clinton signed the repeal of Glass Steagall the most important regulation on banks that we still haven't fully gotten back

It's really a question of whether Bill is an idiot, or he was bought, he doesn't get off the hook for having a D next to his name
Agreed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declin...93Steagall_Act

Thing is that Glass Steagall had been getting chipped away at for decades. By the mid 90s you had many arguing that a full repeal would actually be in the best interest of consumers. Maybe those who wanted it kept on the books didn't make a good enough case.
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https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...policy/514010/

Now that's ****ed. Unwanted kids is only gonna hurt the economy. We need to flush as many as we can.
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