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Old 01-14-2017, 02:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Activists had called for a boycott following reports that a member of the family that owns L.L. Bean contributed to Trump's campaign.
To each his own. If a family member of LL Bean wants to contribute to a political action committee in favor of Trump then that is her prerogative. It wasn't like no one was contributing to Hillary Clinton's campaign committee and super PACs in favor of her.

List of Hillary Clinton's campaign committee and super PAC donors, and the amount range in the millions of US dollars:
Top Contributors, federal election data for Hillary Clinton, 2016 cycle
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To each his own. If a family member of LL Bean wants to contribute to a political action committee in favor of Trump then that is her prerogative. It wasn't like no one was contributing to Hillary Clinton's campaign committee and super PACs in favor of her.

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You're dumb. This is basically the President (Elect) of the United States being a shill for a corporation. What if Obama suddenly stopped in the middle of the State of the Union address to plug Vanilla Coke?
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You're dumb. This is basically the President (elect) of the United States being a shill for a corporation. What if Obama suddenly stopped in the middle of the State of the Union address to plug Vanilla Coke?
You're just frontin'. Where in that post did I say what Donald Trump did was ethical? I didn't. Why do I have to tell you I didn't. It's cause you go off on a tangent like I don't know what I am saying.

If the U.S. Office of Government Ethics states that "All executive branch employees must refrain from misuse of position, including endorsements." Then he should refrain from endorsing products considering the position he is about to hold, the office of the president of the Unite States. I have no qualms over that so don't act like I do.

What I was addressing was the mindset of the "Activist" who want punish Trump supporter and boycott any thing and everything related to them. You know presidential campaigns are not free. Hillary Clinton raised $932.3 million to loose, and that was a fine investment. Why isn't donating a little cash to a political action committee in favor of Trump equally respected?
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You're just frontin'. Where in that post did I say what Donald Trump did was ethical? I didn't. Why do I have to tell you I didn't. It's cause you go off on a tangent like I don't know what I am saying.

If the U.S. Office of Government Ethics states that "All executive branch employees must refrain from misuse of position, including endorsements." Then he should refrain from endorsing products considering the position he is about to hold, the office of the president of the Unite States. I have no qualms over that so don't act like I do.

What I was addressing was the mindset of the "Activist" who want punish Trump supporter and boycott any thing and everything related to them. You know presidential campaigns are not free. Hillary Clinton raised $932.3 million to loose, and that was a fine investment. Why isn't donating a little cash to a political action committee in favor of Trump equally respected?
Either way you were just trying to deflect criticism cause you're a generic conservative hack.
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Your comment about assassinating the king of England. It was too late to quote it.
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You're dumb. This is basically the President (Elect) of the United States being a shill for a corporation. What if Obama suddenly stopped in the middle of the State of the Union address to plug Vanilla Coke?
Yeah I have to agree. The point being made was not, I think, that corporations should not be able to contribute to presidential campaigns, but that after they have done and their guy has won, that guy, the new president, should not be able to basically advertise for them. Payback like that is certainly unethical.
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Your comment about assassinating the king of England. It was too late to quote it.
Why was it too late to quote it?
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Well to be fair, Trump hasn't been inaugurated to any formal office as of yet, so even now he's still just a private citizen. So if he wants to tweet and give shout outs to companies, CURRENTLY it is perfectly within his rights to do so. After the 20th though...not so much.

On another note....it all makes sense now!

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Your comment about assassinating the king of England. It was too late to quote it.

Yeah I have to agree. The point being made was not, I think, that corporations should not be able to contribute to presidential campaigns, but that after they have done and their guy has won, that guy, the new president, should not be able to basically advertise for them. Payback like that is certainly unethical.
In a way you're right it's not the point because it wasn't a corporate donation. Linda Bean made a private donation, not a cooperate donation of the company's monkey. Mind you it was more than the allowable amount for that type of PAC, but amount would be allowable if it was a super PAC that can receive an unlimited amount. Scoffing at a $60,000 donation doesn't make sense when somehow other donation can be made in the millions of dollars.

OK the point was noted that Trump shouldn't had made a plug for LL Bean. And if you read Anteater's comment it was a no biggie, he's not in office. So why go after a company LL Bean which has no control over the matter?

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“L.L.Bean does not endorse political candidates, take positions on political matters, or make political contributions,” he wrote. “Simply put, we stay out of politics. To be included in this boycott campaign is simply misguided, and we respectfully request that Grab Your Wallet reverse its position.” -- Huffington Post
Nice try LL Bean, Shannon Counter and her minions won't to see that, beacuase they are boycotting Facebook, dah.

For those upset that LL Bean might make money, please grab your wallet and mail it to George Soros. #grabyourwalletandmailittogeorgesoros
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Well to be fair, Trump hasn't been inaugurated to any formal office as of yet, so even now he's still just a private citizen. So if he wants to tweet and give shout outs to companies, CURRENTLY it is perfectly within his rights to do so. After the 20th though...not so much.
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Well, he is the president elect, and nobody is going to be stupid enough not to know and realise that if the president elect endorses something, it's pretty much the same as the president doing it, only that few days prior. You think he's going to withdraw the comment once he's in office??
No, he's not going to withdraw the comment and two he doesn't have to. The federal law prevents people in the executive branch from endorsing companies but presidents/president elects are exempt from this law. He can endorse all the companies he wants to all throughout his presidency.

Does it seem unethical? Damn skippy. Is it against the Law? No.
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