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kibbeh 01-13-2017 06:15 PM

lol so what if his name is hussein

first of all having an arabic name doesn't make you a muslim second of all, even if he was a muslim, who cares. isn't it supposed to be a 'free country'? why shouldn't a muslim run for president.

Key 01-13-2017 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by pansy gayboy 69 (Post 1794993)
lol so what if his name is hussein

first of all having an arabic name doesn't make you a muslim second of all, even if he was a muslim, who cares. isn't it supposed to be a 'free country'? why shouldn't a muslim run for president.

You obviously missed the origin of this back and forth. I'm not saying there is anything wrong. What I'm saying is in response to what Nea originally said:

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I had the impression that Obama fueled the fire by not to showing his birth certificate.
He's under the assumption that Obama portrayed fueling the fire in the same sense that Trump seems to be doing. Which is inaccurate since Obama did show his birth certificate due to an outcry because of his middle name.

kibbeh 01-13-2017 06:18 PM

yeah, i wasn't directing that at you, i was just saying about how americans would've freaked out if obama was a muslim who ****in cares

Key 01-13-2017 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by pansy gayboy 69 (Post 1794996)
yeah, i wasn't directing that at you, i was just saying about how americans would've freaked out if obama was a muslim who ****in cares

Well again, it was due to the whole deal with Sadam Hussein. Barack Obama having the same middle name as an Iraq president raised some concerns. Especially with Barack Obama taking the highest seat in the country. I'm not saying it's right that the country freaked out, but you and Nea are assuming people in this country aren't dumb enough to think that such a thing would actually be accurate.

I don't think it'd had been much of a big deal had Sadam Hussein not been so "famous".

kibbeh 01-13-2017 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1794997)
Well again, it was due to the whole deal with Sadam Hussein. Barack Obama having the same middle name as an Iraq president raised some concerns. Especially with Barack Obama taking the highest seat in the country. I'm not saying it's right that the country freaked out, but you and Nea are assuming people in this country aren't dumb enough to think that such a thing would actually be accurate.


so if saddam had a different first name like joseph or tony or something and then a guy with the same name ran for president, people would freak out? that's retarded. but i know a lot of americans are stupid that way.

Key 01-13-2017 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by pansy gayboy 69 (Post 1795000)
so if saddam had a different first name like joseph or tony or something and then a guy with the same name ran for president, people would freak out? that's retarded. but i know a lot of americans are stupid that way.

Well that's not entirely my point but I think you know what I mean. When Obama was elected for his first term, the fact that he was the first black president raised some concern with people. Tagging on the fact that Hussein was his middle name raised more concerns. So much to the fact that releasing his birth certificate was the only way to justify it. Which he then did.

Hussein on its own raised alarm because of the obvious and what Saddam Hussein was known for. So yeah, I guess if his name was James and he did do the same things as Saddam Hussein, there'd be concern. But that's not what happened.

kibbeh 01-13-2017 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1795001)
Well that's not entirely my point but I think you know what I mean. When Obama was elected for his first term, the fact that he was the first black president raised some concern with people. Tagging on the fact that Hussein was his middle name raised more concerns. So much to the fact that releasing his birth certificate was the only way to justify it. Which he then did.

many african americans have arabic or middle eastern names. doesn't make them muslims.

also i think the USA is the same as lebanon in that you must be christian to be able to run for president.

Key 01-13-2017 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by pansy gayboy 69 (Post 1795002)
many african americans have arabic or middle eastern names. doesn't make them muslims.

also i think the USA is the same as lebanon in that you must be christian to be able to run for president.

Well in the US you have to have been born in the US in order to run. I don't know about the Christianity thing. But again, you also have to take into the fact that Obama was elected after George W. Bush. The same George W. Bush people believed allowed the war on terrorism and the Iraq invasion etc. It was just a completely ****ed up situation that Obama then had to take on. So with the Iraq invasion and the fact that his name shared the same as Saddam (the same Saddam that was involved in the Iraq War), the outcry was to be expected.

Key 01-13-2017 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1795008)
Really? Separation of church and state?

No, religion is not a factor in eligibility. It's just a factor in getting votes when it shouldn't be. Probably how Obama became a Christian even though he was raised by atheists.

Ah ****. That's right. I had a brain fart. I was more focusing on my point so I missed the obvious.

kibbeh 01-13-2017 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1795008)
Really? Separation of church and state?

No, religion is not a factor in eligibility. It's just a factor in getting votes when it shouldn't be. Probably how Obama became a Christian even though he was raised by atheists.

it's one of those things that americans say is not a factor but we all know it is. i'd like to see americans elect an atheist or druze or something. has there ever been a non-christian president in the US?


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