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Old 01-13-2017, 12:07 PM   #811 (permalink)
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Well damn. Is this what it feels like to have a civil discussion with you? I like this.
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Old 01-13-2017, 01:50 PM   #812 (permalink)
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How many more times will the word "unprecedented" be used in regard to a US President in the next 4 years?

I'm going with 1,836.

Sarah Palin is masturbating to all of this BTW.
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Old 01-13-2017, 01:54 PM   #813 (permalink)
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How many more times will the word "unprecedented" be used in regard to a US President in the next 4 years?

I'm going with 1,836.

Sarah Palin is masturbating to all of this BTW.
Sounds good to me.
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Old 01-13-2017, 03:28 PM   #814 (permalink)
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Funny thing is it was Donald Trump who really got the whole fake news **** going when he went public saying he had "very reliable sources" who could prove that Obama wasn't born in the USA. What goes around, comes around.
The has always been fake news, Trump did start that. However the media took it to a whole other level with cover ups for numerous Arkancides.

I had the impression that Obama fueled the fire by not to showing his birth certificate. On Feb. 10th 2007 he announced running for presidency, June 3rd 2008 became the Demo nominee, won the election and was inaugurated on Jan 20 2009. It was only till April 11th of 2011 his BC was posted online. So much for his promise of transparency. He stoked that fire by not being forthright
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I had the impression that Obama fueled the fire by not to showing his birth certificate. On Feb. 10th 2007 he announced running for presidency, June 3rd 2008 became the Demo nominee, won the election and was inaugurated on Jan 20 2009. It was only till April 11th of 2011 his BC was posted online. So much for his promise of transparency. He stoked that fire by not being forthright
I'm pretty sure this had more to do with the spark of controversy and conspiracy over his birth certificate because of his middle name. Presidents technically do not have to show their birth certificate upon taking office. But Obama was the wild card because of his background and name. Hardly fueling the fire.
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How many more times will the word "unprecedented" be used in regard to a US President in the next 4 years?
I wonder how many times it will actually matter. I'm going with 50% unprecedented for a reason and 50% media stink.
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Well of course. I'd agree with you on that one until the day I die. My only point is that if people are choosing not to be skeptical (which you should always be when news breaks out, whether it's presidential, a celebrity death, or w/e) this type of stuff will always blow up. I looked at it with skepticism and checked if other sites were reporting it, and I came up with nothing. At that point, I just played the waiting game and nothing has really been said about as far as I know.
I didn't check what CNN had to say on it but I believe they were reporting on it as well. How did you come up with nothing?

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Well I don't disagree with that, but that's not my point in the first place. News outlets or "fake news" outlets are putting out stories about Trump because they know it'll get under his skin. He reacts to it every time, and that's at the end of the day what people are hungry for.
That is in no way their motivation for doing that. It's all about the money. There were companies in eastern Europe making stupid amount of money publishing fake stories during the election cycle and I'm sure they aren't going to stop any time soon. Why would they?
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I didn't check what CNN had to say on it but I believe they were reporting on it as well. How did you come up with nothing?
I didn't know that they reported it is what I meant by that.

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That is in no way their motivation for doing that. It's all about the money. There were companies in eastern Europe making stupid amount of money publishing fake stories during the election cycle and I'm sure they aren't going to stop any time soon. Why would they?
Well of course it's about the money. That's what clickbait exists for as well. I'm not saying it wasn't the motivation behind it because that's just obvious. I imagine they gained millions of clicks on their site just by that article alone.
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I'm pretty sure this had more to do with the spark of controversy and conspiracy over his birth certificate because of his middle name. Presidents technically do not have to show their birth certificate upon taking office. But Obama was the wild card because of his background and name. Hardly fueling the fire.
Maybe there are people out there that think they know him by his name and will form either a positive or negative opinion on him based on that alone. While it's true some people think that way, that doesn't make it sound reasoning.

His name isn't the issue. His first name, "Barrack," is either linguistically related to "Baruch" ben Neriah (according to Josephus a Jewish aristocrat and son of Neriah) or "Barak" who was a military leader of the ancient Israelite. Just having the name "Barrack" gives no indication on his opinion of Israel. There are many Jewish people who are very disappointed, even critical, with Obama over issues concerning Israel.

It's just an opinion that Barrack Obama was in on the controversy over Article Two of the Constitution based on the fact he often like to scoff at the Constitution.
The 21 times Obama violated the Constitution
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Maybe there are people out there that think they know him by his name and will form either a positive or negative opinion on him based on that alone. While it's true some people think that way, that doesn't make it sound reasoning.

His name isn't the issue. His first name, "Barrack," is either linguistically related to "Baruch" ben Neriah (according to Josephus a Jewish aristocrat and son of Neriah) or "Barak" who was a military leader of the ancient Israelite. Just having the name "Barrack" gives no indication on his opinion of Israel. There are many Jewish people who are very disappointed, even critical, with Obama over issues concerning Israel.

It's just an opinion that Barrack Obama was in on the controversy over Article Two of the Constitution based on the fact he often like to scoff at the Constitution.
The 21 times Obama violated the Constitution
Dude, you're completely off the radar with that one. There were countless reports of people asking for his birthplace and certificate when his middle name was much more publicized. I'm not talking about his first and last name, I'm talking about his middle name being Hussein. If you somehow forgot, the reason for this outcry was because of the big issue with Sadam Hussein which back then was a very touchy subject, and so people started to question the validity of Barack leading this country since you have to have been born in the US. Rightfully so, there was several counts of controversy over this and eventually he did show his birth certificate solidifying his validity to be president.

He was in no way shape or form involved in "fueling the flame." You're assuming this country isn't dumb enough to assume that Barack Hussein Obama isn't the name of a extremist Muslim out to destroy the US. That's literally what people believed.
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