What Did President Trump Do Now?

**Frownland** · 07-10-2017, 10:56 PM

I would be cool with not hearing about the Russia collusion until after Mueller releases his report in two years.

Chula Vista · 07-10-2017, 11:49 PM

If the Mexico border were a straight, flat highway, and you were able to drive it non-stop at 60MPH it would take over 33 hours to traverse it.

Now factor in deserts, mountains, rivers and other waterways, a ton of private property, the extreme weather conditions, no running water, no electricity, no access roads over the vast majority of it, and also the fact the wall would end up having to run along extremely corrupt and criminal cities like Juarez.......

And you are ****ting on me for trying to inject some reality into the conversation?

I've done my homework guys. Ant's the dude trying to over-simplify and dumb down things to fit his narrative - not me.

Mexican border is 1,989 miles.

Boston to Chicago is 984 miles.

Dallas to Miami is 1,313 miles.

Paris to Rome is 883 miles.

Just think about the magnitude of what Trump and his enablers are trying to get you people to swallow.

**Frownland** · 07-10-2017, 11:57 PM

1: you are not being shat on, your ideas are being challenged.
2: you definitely oversimplify things you don't agree with, much like Ant.
3: no one here thinks that your self-assigned homework assignments are reliable
4: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect
5: injecting reality into the situation is very out of character for you. Your style has more of a self-aggrandizing parrot approach to it.

Bonus: I wish you actually understood the sides of people you were arguing against. If you look at my post I actually pointed out the outlandish cost of the wall as it is, which some might consider to be the same as agreeing with you on some level. Plus, DWV's post is not a statement on the abstract concept of the economic/pragmatic nature of wall itself, just that particular issue that you raised with it. There is a big difference. I guess that brings it back to number two.

Anteater · 07-11-2017, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

Nobody needed more evidence that Ant is a bootlicker to the fascist but oh boy is this post a doozy sycophancy off the scale

There's no getting through to someone like this

Performining mental gymnastics to avoid reaching the obvious conclusions to keep the image of his idol

So it's better to let do Russia whatever they want in future elections as opposed to putting something in place that might hold them to some level of accountability? Elphenor-logic...

Neither you nor Chula seem to understand any of my actual positions on any given subject, so expecting you to do so now would be a long shot that would require you to give more than a few seconds of thought to whatever is being discussed.

Chula Vista · 07-11-2017, 12:32 AM

Lots of fancy words and postulation Frowny.

I'm 100% certain you'll do the same with this response even though you have zero experience compared to me.

I've been doing mechanical engineering, product development, cost analyzing, and project management for over 3 decades.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/don-belanger-2375943/

What I'm doing is the absolute opposite of oversimplifying. I've been able to consider the Mexican wall in ways that you simply can't consider. Thirty years of experience in this game buys you that calling card. The idea is simply a disaster waiting to happen and will drain our economy for years if it ever gets green lighted.

**Frownland** · 07-11-2017, 12:34 AM

I just want someone to look at me the way that Anteater looks at Trump.

And I try to avoid people who look at me like Chula looks at Trump.

It's like a Renaissance painting.

Anteater · 07-11-2017, 12:40 AM

I don't like Trump though. I just saw the reality from the beginning that he's a complex individual, even if its easier to pretend that he isn't in order to simplify the narrative. He doesn't play by either party's playbook where you think he would, which is why when you look at anything he does it has to be done on a case-by-case basis. I grew to dislike Obama after eight years, but I never thought of him as the Anti-christ.

**Frownland** · 07-11-2017, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

*masturbation*

What I'm doing is the absolute opposite of oversimplifying. I've been able to consider the Mexican wall in ways that you simply can't consider. Thirty years of experience in this game buys you that calling card. The idea is simply a disaster waiting to happen and will drain our economy for years if it ever gets green lighted.

Dude. We get that. That's not even the part of your post that was criticized. You brought up barren parts of the border as evidence of the inefficacy of making the wall solar. That's a fractional aspect of what the wall would cost to begin with and a flaw in your argument.

The wall is retarded. So is a solar wall. That idea is simple enough to put forward on its own without having to focus on things that marginally affect the issue, such as that very specific topic that was addressed in DWV's post do you understand what I'm getting at here or will I have to make this sentence run on forever because I'll do whatever it takes to help both of us reach a better understanding of the truth in a time where it's so unstable goddamn.

**Frownland** · 07-11-2017, 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anteater

I don't like Trump though. I just saw the reality from the beginning that he's a complex individual, even if its easier to pretend that he isn't in order to simplify the narrative. He doesn't play by either party's playbook where you think he would, which is why when you look at anything he does it has to be done on a case-by-case basis. I grew to dislike Obama after eight years, but I never thought of him as the Anti-christ.

The funny part is that Kushner says so little that it's not certain of whether or not he's into Trump either. He's even kind of wincing in the photo (I like sad-looking girls).

Anteater · 07-11-2017, 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland

The funny part is that Kushner says so little that it's not certain of whether or not he's into Trump either. He's even kind of wincing in the photo (I like sad-looking girls).

He's pretty liberal so I doubt he loves Trump....least not the daddy lol...

07-10-2017, 10:56 PM	#5681 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	I would be cool with not hearing about the Russia collusion until after Mueller releases his report in two years. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

07-10-2017, 11:49 PM	#5682 (permalink)
Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	If the Mexico border were a straight, flat highway, and you were able to drive it non-stop at 60MPH it would take over 33 hours to traverse it. Now factor in deserts, mountains, rivers and other waterways, a ton of private property, the extreme weather conditions, no running water, no electricity, no access roads over the vast majority of it, and also the fact the wall would end up having to run along extremely corrupt and criminal cities like Juarez....... And you are ***ting on me for trying to inject some reality into the conversation? I've done my homework guys. Ant's the dude trying to over-simplify and dumb down things to fit his narrative - not me. Mexican border is 1,989 miles. Boston to Chicago is 984 miles. Dallas to Miami is 1,313 miles. Paris to Rome is 883 miles. Just think about the magnitude of what Trump and his enablers are trying to get you people to swallow. __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.” Last edited by Chula Vista; 07-10-2017 at 11:54 PM.*

07-10-2017, 11:57 PM	#5683 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	1: you are not being shat on, your ideas are being challenged. 2: you definitely oversimplify things you don't agree with, much like Ant. 3: no one here thinks that your self-assigned homework assignments are reliable 4: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect 5: injecting reality into the situation is very out of character for you. Your style has more of a self-aggrandizing parrot approach to it. Bonus: I wish you actually understood the sides of people you were arguing against. If you look at my post I actually pointed out the outlandish cost of the wall as it is, which some might consider to be the same as agreeing with you on some level. Plus, DWV's post is not a statement on the abstract concept of the economic/pragmatic nature of wall itself, just that particular issue that you raised with it. There is a big difference. I guess that brings it back to number two. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

07-11-2017, 12:32 AM	#5685 (permalink)
Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	Lots of fancy words and postulation Frowny. I'm 100% certain you'll do the same with this response even though you have zero experience compared to me. I've been doing mechanical engineering, product development, cost analyzing, and project management for over 3 decades. https://www.linkedin.com/in/don-belanger-2375943/ What I'm doing is the absolute opposite of oversimplifying. I've been able to consider the Mexican wall in ways that you simply can't consider. Thirty years of experience in this game buys you that calling card. The idea is simply a disaster waiting to happen and will drain our economy for years if it ever gets green lighted. __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

07-11-2017, 12:34 AM	#5686 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	I just want someone to look at me the way that Anteater looks at Trump. And I try to avoid people who look at me like Chula looks at Trump. It's like a Renaissance painting. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x