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Old 06-23-2017, 05:24 PM   #5611 (permalink)
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You're due for a chill pill.

DWV is not arguing that Trump didn't have any effect on Atlantic City, just that he was one of myriad factors and that it's short sighted to point to him as the key cause.

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Old 06-23-2017, 05:25 PM   #5612 (permalink)
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So if I don't have first hand knowledge, and have to to rely on everything that's available via dozens of various media and online sources, exactly what am I supposed to do to supplant you ****ers with my opinions?

Rather than jumping on me and what you call "my biases" how about you come up with something to counter the vast majority overview of the actual issue?

Post something that actually proves that Trump didn't **** Atlantic City over big time. That is the subject here. Not what I have to say on the subject.

Come on, provide some defense to what I've said other than "because you said it, it sucks". I dare you.
You didn't really give us anything to defend against, unless there was a link to a source or two that I missed. You just kind of dropped an opinion and walked off. That's not how debates work.
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Old 06-23-2017, 05:25 PM   #5613 (permalink)
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So if I don't have first hand knowledge, and have to to rely on everything that's available via dozens of various media and online sources, exactly what am I supposed to do to supplant you ****ers with my opinions?

Rather than jumping on me and what you call "my biases" how about you come up with something to counter the vast majority overview of the actual issue?

Post something that actually proves that Trump didn't **** Atlantic City over big time. That is the subject here. Not what I have to say on the subject.

Come on, provide some defense to what I've said other than "because you said it, it sucks". I dare you.
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DWV is not arguing that Trump didn't have any effect on Atlantic City, just that he was one of myriad factors and that it's short sighted to point to him as the key cause.
What Frown said.. and if you want one of the many examples of the downfall of AC that you can read about with a simple google search, you should try looking into the Revel Casino.
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Old 06-23-2017, 05:43 PM   #5614 (permalink)
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Post something that actually proves that Trump didn't **** Atlantic City over big time.
I'm waiting.

I'm not saying other things weren't at play. But admit Trump helped to **** your city over big time.

Or don't.
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Old 06-23-2017, 05:47 PM   #5615 (permalink)
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And thus Chula's argument was born.
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Old 06-23-2017, 05:52 PM   #5616 (permalink)
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You are so predictable.......

I source online data, and then you use online data to refute my online data.

I'm taking a nap now.
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Old 06-23-2017, 06:28 PM   #5617 (permalink)
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You are so predictable.......

I tell tales of online data backing up my point about a complex scenario, and then you use online data covering well established logical concepts to refute my garbage logic tactics.

I'm taking a nap now.
Just because I'm predictable doesn't mean I'm a bad businessman.
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Old 06-23-2017, 06:34 PM   #5618 (permalink)
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Isn't the onus of proof on the one making the allegation? Prove YOU'RE not the one who ****ed over Atlantic City, Chula.

Ban him, Frowny.
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Old 06-23-2017, 06:40 PM   #5619 (permalink)
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Isn't the onus of proof on the one making the allegation? Prove YOU'RE not the one who ****ed over Atlantic City, Chula.
The burden of proof lies on whoever has the most cameras on them.

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The paparazzi has to prove Trump killed Atlantic City? Da fuq?
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