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Old 06-23-2017, 04:20 PM   #5601 (permalink)
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I'm not the one who's clueless. Take off your homers buddy. This is just one of dozens you can find on reputable sites.

Donald Trump and the Rise and Fall of Atlantic City

How many people lost jobs because of Trump's failure in Atlantic City DWV?
Cool, that's one factor. Are you aware of any of the mismanagement and corruption that happened in the local government in this area? I live here and work for Atlantic County, with access to great deal of information you've probably never read or heard about..

Just more of the usual black and white, cause and effect arguments you make.
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Old 06-23-2017, 04:45 PM   #5602 (permalink)
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Just more of the usual black and white, cause and effect arguments you make.
Dude. They are not MY arguments. I don't live there so I have to rely on dozens and dozens of TV, online, press, and other media sources. You wanna diss on anyone? Diss on the vast majority of the various information sources that have been out there for a over a decade documenting how Trump ****ed up Atlantic City.

If you have some inside info that absolves Trump, spill it.

I get sick of the number of times some of you jump on me as if I'm some kind of ****ing idiot that doesn't research both sides of an issue before posting an "OPINION" on this forum.
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Dude. They are not MY arguments. I don't live there so I have to rely on dozens and dozens of TV, online, press, and other media sources. You wanna diss on anyone? Diss on the vast majority of the various information sources that have been out there for a over a decade documenting how Trump ****ed up Atlantic City.
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You've got to stop playing the part first, my man. You've never given off the impression of being open to challenging your biases, so you "researching both sides" doesn't hold that much water, unfortunately.
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Dude. They are not MY arguments. I don't live there so I have to rely on dozens and dozens of TV, online, press, and other media sources. You wanna diss on anyone? Diss on the vast majority of the various information sources that have been out there for a over a decade documenting how Trump ****ed up Atlantic City.

If you have some inside info that absolves Trump, spill it.

I get sick of the number of times some of you jump on me as if I'm some kind of ****ing idiot that doesn't research both sides of an issue before posting an "OPINION" on this forum.
I'm not absolving Trump. I'm simply pointing out (as I usually do whenever I come to this thread), that there are MULTIPLE REASONS behind the downfall of Atlantic City. You just like to grab shitty things Trump does and exaggerate the hell out of them to justify your position. Trump did not single handedly destroy Atlantic City. I'm not arguing anything about Trump, I'm just saying you are factually wrong.
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And 40% has stiffed and ruined millions of people and even local economies. It's not all about Trump making money for himself. The guy has a decades long history of stiffing people for his own benefit. If you consider that a successful businessman then I don't know what to say.

And of that 60% a huge chunk of it is him just pimping out his name to overseas lapdogs who have tons of money to throw away on Trump's celebrity status.

I don't admire that. I understand why you do though.
You do realize that out of the hundreds of millions he generates a big chunk of that goes to payroll in some form or fashion right? Any business as large as his has to write off a lot every year just to remain somewhat profitable.

Stop being passive-aggressive and try to think about what actually goes into a global enterprise for 5 seconds.
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So if I don't have first hand knowledge, and have to to rely on everything that's available via dozens of various media and online sources, exactly what am I supposed to do to supplant you ****ers with my opinions?

Rather than jumping on me and what you call "my biases" how about you come up with something to counter the vast majority overview of the actual issue?

Post something that actually proves that Trump didn't **** Atlantic City over big time. That is the subject here. Not what I have to say on the subject.

Come on, provide some defense to what I've said other than "because you said it, it sucks". I dare you.
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