Chula Vista

Seriously? Huge public and political outcry over the proposed ethics gut and Trumps get the GOP to back down.

Top story tonight is the US now knows who turned over the hacked DNC emails to Russia. This'll be interesting over the next few days.

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on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away
and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

The Batlord

I don't watch much news. What did Trump do?

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Chula Vista

As recently as yesterday Trump was backing Julian Assange (who just two years earlier he said should get the death penalty) after Assange stated that Wikileaks didn't get the emails from Russia.

The US is now saying they have identified the middle man who brokered the deal between Wikileaks and Russia.

Trumps get an intel brief tomorrow so it'll be interesting to see if he still stays in denial.

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“The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well,
on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away
and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

The Batlord

Throw me a link or something. What was Trump's response to congress? There's five bajillion Trump stories out there and I'm too drunk to prove your point for you.

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Chula Vista

Recently:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ange-dnc-hacks

Six years ago:
Trump in 2010 wanted 'death penalty' for WikiLeaks | TheHill

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“The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well,
on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away
and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

The Batlord

Oh my ****ing god I wasn't talking about that.

THIS. A LINK TO TRUMP'S COMMENTS ABOUT THIS. I'M STILL NOT DONE MOCKING YOU.

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Chula Vista

Sleep it off and we'll chat in the morning.

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“The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well,
on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away
and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

The Batlord

Slept. You're still evasive. Did Trump actually voice any opinion on the matter?

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djchameleon

In the same place as his tax returns.

Trump is still in his denial phase because he has to protect his butt buddy Putin at all costs and continue to spread misinformation.

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duga

It's interesting to see you guys debating something with no tangible evidence supporting either side. You won't be able to prove a motive unless a trustworthy whistleblower lays it all out for us. All we can debate is the attempt itself and potential political outcome.

That being said, I can still provide my own speculation. I highly doubt this was a move to make Trump look like the rebel again. The moderate Republicans will always be questioning him no matter what and his base has already shown they are fine with him walking straight into their trailers, grabbing their pussies, and murdering their pets. As long as he tweets #MAGA every once in a while, they'll probably vote for him in 2020 as well. No, I think congressional Republicans simply misread the room and felt they had a mandate from the electorate to do whatever the hell they want. Just look at all the backpedaling they have been doing to explain their motives. Several have stated in interviews that it "must have not been the right time", implying they will be trying again. One thing I think they have not considered is that while their base may have gotten Trump elected, presidential elections are really the only thing they come out for. Is your average Joe Shmoe coal miner going to care enough about the Republican agenda to get out there and support it? No...he's got to feed his family and mine coal. He just wants to make sure his guns and unborn fetuses are safe and that there's not a black man or a woman in the oval office. Their job is done - now the electorate will be composed of the people who actually have a stake in the nitty gritty details of politics, and those people are not as big a fan of Trump. I'm happy to see there will at least be some resistance to Trump's efforts.

If anyone wanted Trump to seem like a rebel again for a pre-presidency popularity boost, it was Trump himself. He's an opportunist - he saw an opportunity and he took it. This is why he scares the **** out of any logically minded Republican. No one...on either side...knows what he is going to do.

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