What Did President Trump Do Now?

Key · 05-16-2017, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Exo

Right but even the idiots are pissed off.

But the added fact that the democrats (like DJ said) have done basically nothing to stop him, he's pretty much in as far as I can tell. Unless they are able to come up with somebody truly great on the dems side that can take him down. Honestly, I don't see that happening.

djchameleon · 05-16-2017, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Exo

Right but even the idiots are pissed off.

That isn't true. Trump voters said they would still vote for him. I know it is based of a recent poll and I hate polls in general now after Trump won but they still back their man.

They also need to win over working class voters that they lost to Trump. They aren't even talking to them.

**Frownland** · 05-16-2017, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

It's going to come down to Comey being called before congress as a private citizen. And he's a tough dude that Trump just **** on. Impeachment is not a question of legality. Congress can vote to do it regardless of whether any laws were broken. Clinton getting a BJ didn't break any laws.

Ja there's a lot of bitter partisanship, but impeachment is absolutely a question of legality. Also, Clinton was impeached for perjury, not the BJ.

Putting that aside, if the Dems impeached Trump on a legally flimsy grounds it would be political suicide and would turn Congress almost entirely red. Total conjecture though.

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

If it was anyone else in the White House they would be screwed but the president is the only one that gets a pass.

Nope. One party consent applies to everyone. That's how laws work.

Key · 05-16-2017, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Nope. One party consent applies to everyone. That's how laws work.

See, this is where I love that I agree with you. When you actually make sense.

Chula Vista · 05-16-2017, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Exo

Right but even the idiots are pissed off.

BINGO!!!!!

It took a while to bring the idiots around but as Penny Lane said in the movie Almost Famous, "It's all Happening!"

rostasi · 05-16-2017, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Clinton getting a BJ didn't break any laws.

You do have a failing memory. Obstruction of justice and perjury in front of a grand jury breaks the law and this is why the House impeached him.

Key · 05-16-2017, 06:40 PM

You'll have to forgive me for playing devils advocate here, but I don't see how whatever fraction the idiots take up will stop Trump from being elected again. I don't know the exact numbers, but I'm sure there are still plenty of people who fall in the middle that will gladly vote him in again just because of the lack of fight from the Dems. Of course, if this is the case and the dems decide that a third party is better for whatever reason, that gives the dems even less of a chance of getting one of their own into office. It's not more about whether they will still vote for him, it's more about whether the Dems are ready to finally get out of their safe bubble and fight him. That doesn't mean getting another Hillary Clinton to run against him, because let's be honest, she was one of the worst examples of the Dems trying to fight back. The people that supported him are still going to support him, and while we still have the out of date electoral college process, his chances of winning are still going to be nearly as good as they were when he took office.

Chula Vista · 05-16-2017, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

impeachment is absolutely a question of legality.

Nope.

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The Constitution defines impeachment at the federal level and limits impeachment to "The President, Vice President, and all civil officers of the United States" who may be impeached and removed only for "treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors". Several commentators have suggested that Congress alone may decide for itself what constitutes a "high crime or misdemeanor", especially since Nixon v. United States stated that the Supreme Court did not have the authority to determine whether the Senate properly "tried" a defendant. In 1970, then-House Minority Leader Gerald R. Ford defined the criterion as he saw it: "An impeachable offense is whatever a majority of the House of Representatives considers it to be at a given moment in history."

**Frownland** · 05-16-2017, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii

You'll have to forgive me for playing devils advocate here, but I don't see how whatever fraction the idiots take up will stop Trump from being elected again. It's not more about whether they will still vote for him, it's more about whether the Dems are ready to finally get out of their safe bubble and fight him. That doesn't mean getting another Hillary Clinton to run against him, because let's be honest, she was one of the worst examples of the Dems trying to fight back. The people that supported him are still going to support him, and while we still have the out of date electoral college process, his chances of winning are still going to be nearly as good as they were when he took office.

Idk, I'm thinking there will be an increased anti-Trump voter turnout that will heavily affect who gets elected. Honestly I consider that pretty dangerous considering that Trump also won because of who he is not, but I still think the voting landscape is going to be massively different next election.

Chula Vista · 05-16-2017, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rostasi

You do have a failing memory. Obstruction of justice and perjury in front of a grand jury breaks the law and this is why the House impeached him.

He said "I did not have sex with that woman." He didn't lie. Look up the definition of sex.

I want to reach into my TV and punch Jason Miller in the ****ing face right now. Trump could walk into a movie theater and murder 50 people and the ****ing guy would back him and blame it on the democrats.

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Key . Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 13,153	You'll have to forgive me for playing devils advocate here, but I don't see how whatever fraction the idiots take up will stop Trump from being elected again. I don't know the exact numbers, but I'm sure there are still plenty of people who fall in the middle that will gladly vote him in again just because of the lack of fight from the Dems. Of course, if this is the case and the dems decide that a third party is better for whatever reason, that gives the dems even less of a chance of getting one of their own into office. It's not more about whether they will still vote for him, it's more about whether the Dems are ready to finally get out of their safe bubble and fight him. That doesn't mean getting another Hillary Clinton to run against him, because let's be honest, she was one of the worst examples of the Dems trying to fight back. The people that supported him are still going to support him, and while we still have the out of date electoral college process, his chances of winning are still going to be nearly as good as they were when he took office.