What Did President Trump Do Now?

Anteater · 05-09-2017, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Exo

Trump fired Comey because he got tired of the investigation into his ties with Russia. It wasn't Hillary. If Trump really fired him because Comey spoke falsities in court then Sessions should be next and then Trump can resign himself.

Very possible. Though the Dems should be celebrating since they were calling for Comey to be fired last year anyway. He was a useful idiot for Trump until he no longer was. Plus as I mentioned, he's not being completely forthcoming on Fusion GPS or their ties to Russia. So there's several different narrative threads that need to be resolved. Heads on both sides of the ideological aisle will be rolling very soon. And Trump's may very well be among them.

Chula Vista · 05-09-2017, 09:03 PM

**Exo** · 05-09-2017, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

Very possible. Though the Dems should be celebrating since they were calling for Comey to be fired last year anyway. He was a useful idiot for Trump until he no longer was. Plus as I mentioned, he's not being completely forthcoming on Fusion GPS or their ties to Russia. So there's several different narrative threads that need to be resolved. Heads on both sides of the ideological aisle will be rolling very soon. And Trump's may very well be among them.

At least you're seeing it for what it is. I don't like Comey. I just don't like Nixon-esque bullsh*t that Trump is pulling even more.

Chula Vista · 05-09-2017, 09:30 PM

1. Damn, Comey is one huge dude. Would be cool if he and Trump could bump into each other mano y mano in a parking lot someday.

2. We have to build a wall to keep America safe. Oh, and by the way, let's fire the director of the FBI with no notice, and no successor lined up.

**Frownland** · 05-09-2017, 09:56 PM

Oh ****, I'm gonna give Donald a call. Get my name in the hat. I'm down to be a sellout like that. These student loans are ****ing me up and I took a criminal justice course once.

Chula Vista · 05-09-2017, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Oh ****, I'm gonna give Donald a call. Get my name in the hat. I'm down to be a sellout like that. These student loans are ****ing me up and I took a criminal justice course once.

I'm in too. I use to watch Dragnet.

Trollheart · 05-10-2017, 07:45 AM

Knowing nothing really about American politics I want to ask a serious question: has, in the history of the presidency, any incoming president fired so many of his appointees (or had them resign) before? It seems a little like Night of the Long Knives or that time when Saddam Hussein seized power in Iraq!

duga · 05-10-2017, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Knowing nothing really about American politics I want to ask a serious question: has, in the history of the presidency, any incoming president fired so many of his appointees (or had them resign) before? It seems a little like Night of the Long Knives or that time when Saddam Hussein seized power in Iraq!

The head of the FBI in particular was only fired one other time while Clinton was president. And then he was only fired because everyone was insisting he resign but he refused.

This is Trump's Saturday Night Massacre. He's flailing. One thing he clearly didn't think of - the FBI is incredibly loyal to Comey. And that's on top of the subpoenas that were issued for Flynn hours before he fired Comey.

This is a moment that will be in the history books. From here, we go one of two ways. One, republicans finally realize they need to get off the Trump train and there is bipartisan support for an independent investigation. Or, they continue to bury their heads in the sand, Trump realizes he truly can get away with anything he wants, and then it's officially Trumpland.

djchameleon · 05-10-2017, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii

Even though presidents have been using Twitter for several years. Not sure I get what point you're trying to make here.

And you see no difference between tweets from other Presidents and Trump?

Trumpland is fast approaching.

rostasi · 05-10-2017, 08:11 AM

Yes, even tho Nixon never fired his FBI director (even Nixon),
the firing of Archibald Cox (the special prosecutor)
involved the resignation of Bill Ruckelshaus and Elliot Richardson
stemming from what has been termed the Saturday Night Massacre.
This is why you are starting to see "Nixonian" used in descriptions.

(oh, I see Duga has mentioned some of this...)

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Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	1. Damn, Comey is one huge dude. Would be cool if he and Trump could bump into each other mano y mano in a parking lot someday. 2. We have to build a wall to keep America safe. Oh, and by the way, let's fire the director of the FBI with no notice, and no successor lined up. __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

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Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,996	Knowing nothing really about American politics I want to ask a serious question: has, in the history of the presidency, any incoming president fired so many of his appointees (or had them resign) before? It seems a little like Night of the Long Knives or that time when Saddam Hussein seized power in Iraq! __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

05-10-2017, 08:11 AM	#4490 (permalink)
rostasi . Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 4,008	Yes, even tho Nixon never fired his FBI director (even Nixon), the firing of Archibald Cox (the special prosecutor) involved the resignation of Bill Ruckelshaus and Elliot Richardson stemming from what has been termed the Saturday Night Massacre. This is why you are starting to see "Nixonian" used in descriptions. (oh, I see Duga has mentioned some of this...) Last edited by rostasi; 05-10-2017 at 08:35 AM.