Frownland

Lol this is what you call responding intelligently? Funniest bit is that you don't think fake pandering news happens on the left just because it's popular on the right too. Gold!

What's not to get? Both our wings are conservative.

Nah bombing Japan was some dick waving to scare off Russia (which backfired). We were incredibly close to winning that front anyways. Plus, the whackily loyal Japs and the whole concept that the bombing saved more lives than it cost is pure grade USDA approved organic bull****. It really was a swimmingly smooth propaganda campaign though, look at how popular both of these ideas are.

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Goofle

1. I was pointing out a current system that has seemingly done it's best to provide a platform to keep every person relatively able to fill their greed, not to say that was what you advocated for. I specifically said it wasn't communism (or whatever system you want) in fact.

2. You need proof of inherent human greed? I'm not the best at finding studies, and there seems to be some on either side of the fence (or that it's a balance) but sometimes common sense and empiricism seems to be the best option.

3. I wasn't using my view that most people are greedy to support a political ideology. I'm against the huge welfare programs I mentioned, for example.

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duga

So who deserves to be recognized with an overall positive legacy to you, exactly?

FDR is recognized as a great president on both sides of the aisle. Much like democrats give republicans their Reagan legacy (even though he really screwed up more than he fixed), no one really trashes FDR. Again, I'm not going to even bother responding with details because your arguments have all the nuance of a 10 year old.

The military leaders of Japan wanted to continue the war, but the emperor wanted it to end. Before the bomb was dropped, he was hoping to negotiate a peaceful surrender. That was the whole point of the US insisting that the Soviet Union declare war on them. Truman decided he wanted to show off how big the US's dick was and went ahead and dropped the bomb, even though the war was all but over. This, combined with Truman backing out of a lot of the concessions made to the Soviet Union between Stalin and FDR, essentially started the Cold War.

Edit: Just saw Frownland talked about this.

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djchameleon

I think this is all posturing. Russia isn't really pissed off. They are only putting on that act to take the heat off of how friendly Trump is with Russia and all the investigations that are currently going on. They are still close and buddy buddy. We even warned Russia about the attacks before they happened so that they could pass the info onto Syria. It's the main reason the base we attacked the **** out of was fully operational like two days after.



No, more like one of our wings is conservative and the other is moderate but likes to argue that they are completely on the left and don't want to cooperate with the conservatives.

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Chula Vista

Dumbass - he said that the media has a liberal bias. I didn't say anything about only the right having fake news. Nice try and putting words in my mouth though.

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Cuthbert

Not sure where to post so I'll post it here.

US drops 'mother of all bombs' on IS-held caves in Afghanistan

Frownland

Calling me a dumbass is simply projection. Read Lucem's post again mate.

To which you replied

As if because it happens on the right it doesn't happen on the left. I'll let you get back to jerking yourself off though.

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Chula Vista

Hope you didn't waste too much of your day crafting that retort. My point still stands.

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“The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well,
on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away
and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

Frownland

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Trollheart

Never heard of that. So there is no left wing in the US?
Yeah but I disagree with you both. The Allies wanted unconditional surrender, and the Japanese military command were worried that this might not exclude the execution of the emperor. As he was/is seen as divine, this would be the ultimate humilation and they vowed to fight on (or, more accurately, have their people fight on) to the end. They were definitely preparing to meet a US invasion; they were training civilians in the art of laying down their lives for the emperor.

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