What Did President Trump Do Now?

Justthefacts · 04-07-2017, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

He may be irresponsible, wreckless, and short-sighted with it, but all of those attacks that kill ****loads of his civilians are targeting ISIS.

Oh great, let's try and kill terrorists all while murdering civilians and create a bigger vacuum for terrorism. Lets not forget, terrorists don't just become terrorist, they usually lose their whole family at the hands of the US or it's own country before they claim jihad. Trumps decision to blow up Assasds Air Force is great because no civilian was killed (except if you consider Assasds foot soldiers a civilian, in which case six of those bastards were killed)

rostasi · 04-07-2017, 11:49 AM

Mr. "Just the facts":

• Nine civilians were killed in one village (including four children)
• Four more were killed in two nearby villages
• Four soldiers were killed that included an air commodore.

Justthefacts · 04-07-2017, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by rostasi

Mr. "Just the facts"

• Nine civilians were killed in one village (including four children)
• Four more were killed in two nearby villages
• Four soldiers were killed that included an air commodore.

The air strikes last night killed civilians too? I had not heard of this...

rostasi · 04-07-2017, 11:53 AM

here

The Batlord · 04-07-2017, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

We contributed to ISIS via these kinds of policies

Every time you topple a regime there, an equal or worse one will sprout up in the name of restoring stability

And finally we agree on something. Nobody seems to give a **** about the Law of Unintended Consequences, as if "six months from now" is something that happens other people. I wonder if we're all gonna wake up a week from now to hear that every member of Seal Team Six has been killed in a botched attempt on Assad's life, that might have succeeded if it hadn't been planned in thirty minutes.

**Janszoon** · 04-07-2017, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Justthefacts

I don't want to say yes, but yes Assad hasn't done anything to stop the spread of ISIS which leads me to believe he's okay with monsters running around with bombs and guns and beheading Christians.

Are you kidding? ISIS are in opposition to Assad's government. Just because ISIS is bad and Assad is bad doesn't mean they're on the same side.

**Janszoon** · 04-07-2017, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

He may be irresponsible, wreckless, and short-sighted with it, but all of those attacks that kill ****loads of his civilians are targeting ISIS.

That's not entirely true. There are several rebel groups in Syria and Assad's attacks are directed at some of the others more than at ISIS.

duga · 04-07-2017, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

And finally we agree on something. Nobody seems to give a **** about the Law of Unintended Consequences, as if "six months from now" is something that happens other people. I wonder if we're all gonna wake up a week from now to hear that every member of Seal Team Six has been killed in a botched attempt on Assad's life, that might have succeeded if it hadn't been planned in thirty minutes.

While I would be the first to agree with this as well, we have ****ed that region so hard for so long, the only way it will stabilize is if we pull out of the region COMPLETELY (not going to happen) or we fix it ourselves (only this time instead of saying we are spreading democracy while grabbin that oil and installing a despotic ruler that lets us do what we want, we actually try to prop up their governments with a legitimate democracy).

The Batlord · 04-07-2017, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by duga

While I would be the first to agree with this as well, we have ****ed that region so hard for so long, the only way it will stabilize is if we pull out of the region COMPLETELY (not going to happen) or we fix it ourselves (only this time instead of saying we are spreading democracy while grabbin that oil and installing a despotic ruler that lets us do what we want, we actually try to prop up their governments with a legitimate democracy).

And what are the chances for either of those? I'll just be glad if we can keep our interventionism to a relative minimum (e.g. no invasions, and if we're going to bomb someone then please don't let it be just us led by a cowboy president). Our foreign policy is too unfocused and short-term oriented to hope for anything better atm, so saying "we need to do something" is tantamount to utopianism in the current climate.

**Frownland** · 04-07-2017, 01:31 PM

It was a funny image in my head so I googled it and there it was

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rostasi . Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 4,007	Mr. "Just the facts": • Nine civilians were killed in one village (including four children) • Four more were killed in two nearby villages • Four soldiers were killed that included an air commodore.

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