What Did President Trump Do Now?

Lucem Ferre · 03-26-2017, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I didn't even say Trump supporter here now did I

I've mostly taken issues with his very conservative ideological statements

The type of statements Bernie would spit at

Stop using buzzwords like "identity politics" you don't even understand what that means

I do. I just feel as though this fits very well under it.

djchameleon · 03-26-2017, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

True (arguable), but what about these chestnuts? Every single one of them would be been standard issue with a Clinton presidency.

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

3. His cabinet (except for Mattis) if filled with very rich people who have vested interests in getting richer rather than helping the country.
4. He's going to damage the reputation of the US with our allies.
5. He's going to embolden our enemies with his rhetoric.
6. His policies are geared towards the wealthy at the expense of the lower class.
7. He doesn't give two ****s about the environment.
8. He's going to stack the supreme court with bible thumpers.
9. He's an embarrassment.
10. His VP thinks that evolution is a theory and wants creationism taught in schools.
11. He emboldens folks like Limbaugh, Hannity, and O'Reilly.
12. He makes racists feel good about themselves.

3 is debatable, sure She might have had some but not to the extent that Trump does.

4. This one doesn't apply in the slightest unless you consider Russia our ally.

5. This one happens with all presidents regardless of the party especially when the East has such beef with Western civilization.

6. This is true of both sides it's just the left is a bit more deceptive about it and put on a bigger front like they are helping. They toss more crumbs than what the current administration is doing.

7. This isn't true.

8. Neither is this one although I feel like all of the old fogeys that get picked for Supreme Court are Christians.

9. Sure that can be said for anyone that you dislike so it's a personal taste kind of thing.

10. This one specifically doesn't fit both of them.

11. This is true. It's their jobs to be that way.

12. I'm not sure how this applies to Bill or Hillary. Maybe you can fill me in on that one.

Lucem Ferre · 03-26-2017, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

Why do you come to this section when you know NOTHING about politics Lucem you embarrass yourself the adults are talking

Yeah, adults, sure. Pretend all you want that you are "adults" "discussing" things. Looks a lot like a bunch of children arguing over who gets the last slice of pizza to me.

Anteater · 03-26-2017, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

3 is debatable, sure She might have had some but not to the extent that Trump does.

4. This one doesn't apply in the slightest unless you consider Russia our ally.

5. This one happens with all presidents regardless of the party especially when the East has such beef with Western civilization.

6. This is true of both sides it's just the left is a bit more deceptive about it and put on a bigger front like they are helping. They toss more crumbs than what the current administration is doing.

7. This isn't true.

8. Neither is this one although I feel like all of the old fogeys that get picked for Supreme Court are Christians.

9. Sure that can be said for anyone that you dislike so it's a personal taste kind of thing.

10. This one specifically doesn't fit both of them.

11. This is true. It's their jobs to be that way.

12. I'm not sure how this applies to Bill or Hillary. Maybe you can fill me in on that one.

I think you might have quoted me when I was still mid-edit. This was the final one:

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3. His cabinet (except for Mattis) if filled with very rich people who have vested interests in getting richer rather than helping the country.
4. He's going to damage the reputation of the US with our allies.
5. He's going to embolden our enemies with his rhetoric.
6. His policies are geared towards the wealthy at the expense of the lower class.
7. He doesn't give two ****s about the environment.
9. He's an embarrassment.
11. He emboldens folks like Limbaugh, Hannity, and O'Reilly.
12. He makes racists feel good about themselves.

4. was in reference to Israel, Tibet, etc.

My reference to 7. is that Hillary Clinton has flip flopped on environmental issues in the past and supported TPP which has a noted track record of being anti-environmental. Just because she never said global warming was a Chinese hoax doesn't mean she's that much better on those issues. Bernie would have been better than her in this area.

My point on 12. is based on stuff she's said (African-American children 'superpredators') plus her and Bill's history during his first few years dealing with certain pieces of legislation back in the 90's, which you can read about more in detail here. https://www.thenation.com/article/hi...peoples-votes/

Key · 03-26-2017, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

This is because you lack the knowledge to have an opinion on anything

Instead you've resorted to basically a poor man's game of devil's advocate

Why? Nobody knows

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Lucem Ferre · 03-26-2017, 05:48 PM

What I don't get is why you guys even come in here to post if you're just going to insult anybody who disagrees with you. Or are you just looking for people to validate your own opinion so you can pat each other on the backs and stimulate your fragile egos? Or perhaps you just get off on bickering with people. The point of discussing is to learn and understand why people have this position and with that understanding it's supposed to bring people together and compromise. It's not to loop yourself into stereotypes and hurl insults at one another furthering the disconnect. Like, you guys come in here and tell anybody that doesn't agree that they are delusional or stupid or bigoted or don't know **** like that's supposed make them think, "oh, he's right!" when all it does is built resentment. And to what end? To make yourself feel bigger because you insulted the other person better? Get the **** out of here. You're wasting your time pretending to be discussing things like rational and mature adults. And the ****ed up thing is, both Trump and Hillary wanted that. They want you to hate each others guts because it makes it that much easier to control you and get your votes when you think the other side is the devil. If you weren't so busy actively getting the other side to resent you so they vote against you we probably wouldn't have had Trump. And trust me, I actually TALKED with Trump supporters to gain a better understanding on how anybody could support him. And they always told me it's because they are sick of the hyperbole and the slander from Hilary supporters.

Lucem Ferre · 03-26-2017, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

This is because you lack the knowledge to have an opinion on anything

Instead you've resorted to basically a poor man's game of devil's advocate

Why? Nobody knows

Remember that time I proved you wrong and proved it's harder for people to illegally immigrate to Canada and all you could do is insult me then rant about how you study this or some stupid **** nobody cared about.

Yeah, pretend all you want. Fake ass punk rocker.

The Batlord · 03-26-2017, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

What I don't get is why you guys even come in here to post if you're just going to insult anybody who disagrees with you. Or are you just looking for people to validate your own opinion so you can pat each other on the backs and stimulate your fragile egos? Or perhaps you just get off on bickering with people. The point of discussing is to learn and understand why people have this position and with that understanding it's supposed to bring people together and compromise. It's not to loop yourself into stereotypes and hurl insults at one another furthering the disconnect. Like, you guys come in here and tell anybody that doesn't agree that they are delusional or stupid or bigoted or don't know **** like that's supposed make them think, "oh, he's right!" when all it does is built resentment. And to what end? To make yourself feel bigger because you insulted the other person better? Get the **** out of here. You're wasting your time pretending to be discussing things like rational and mature adults. And the ****ed up thing is, both Trump and Hillary wanted that. They want you to hate each others guts because it makes it that much easier to control you and get your votes when you think the other side is the devil. If you weren't so busy actively getting the other side to resent you so they vote against you we probably wouldn't have had Trump. And trust me, I actually TALKED with Trump supporters to gain a better understanding on how anybody could support him. And they always told me it's because they are sick of the hyperbole and the slander from Hilary supporters.

This is why I generally ignore politics unless I want to be childish and throw shade on people. The more you learn about politics, the dumber you get, cause you'll develop opinions, then take sides, then start yelling, and pretty soon you're just in it for the dopamine hits from arguing. It almost never fails, no matter how smart the person is, and it's the catch 22 that will always leave the world ****ed. So I stay dumb and keep my brain.

Chula Vista · 03-26-2017, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

How big of a deal you made about the "grab her by the pussy line" how every single thing that happens gets the label 'unprecidented' how every news story you say "Trump is finnished now!'

I completely underestimated the idiocracy of American voters.

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I mean, you've been saying Trump is finnished now or done or on his way out since long before he was elected. Over things that hardly make a difference.

Hardly make a difference? The dude is 60 days in and is embroiled in ridiculous amounts of debate, and possible serious scandal.

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Oh, and lets' not forget him not wanting to attend that stupid ****ing dinner that you made a deal out of.

That stupid ****ing dinner is a Washington/Presidential institution. Just because he's a scared little boy over the whole thing doesn't negate that.

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Oh, and all these god damned polls. The polls say Trumps approval rating is going down. Down down down down down. Okay, cool, Chula. And what's changed since when you first started saying that? Is he still president?

You are 100% right. My creadance with polls has forever been damaged. That being said, how about you post a current link to a positive story relating to Trump's presidency?

I'll wait right here.

DwnWthVwls · 03-26-2017, 06:23 PM

All the people who like having discussions and addressing ideas rarely post in here. Its enjoyable when they do.