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Wait House Intelligence Chairman says there was no evidence of any collusion with Trump and Russia? Well sheeeeeeit...

I was looking forward to some red scare bull****...

But I know they never will improve, so there you go. Why? Because they will never be efficient and don't really want to be. Too many agendas above our heads that the American people can't compete with. And I did talk (albeit briefly) about how ideals don't match reality in regards to social security systems.

Real change will only occur if you can get money out of politics. That won't happen under a Democratic or Republican administration. You need something resembling the Libertarian ideal to be embraced by the mainstream voter.

Agreed: a lot of people have little to work with. You need different companies and industries to set up in an area to have a diversified economy, otherwise you have a lot of what you've described. The government is never going to swoop in and create opportunities for those people, but new companies might.

Heavy handed assumptions are pointless. Let me know if you end your love affair with them.

Let me know when you guys can do better than generalities about how government is so great and how they'll always look out for the people as long as the word "Democrat" is in there somewhere.

those quotes in anteater's sig are fake, right

Who's speaking in generalities? You do realize blanket assumptions in the opposite direction are just as moronic as what you describe here, right?

No, it's like I read your "when you grow up you'll get more conservative" comment and provided a counterexample.

I'm familiar with the libertarian fantasy world, thanks. I used to consider myself somewhat of a libertarian, then I grew up. Maybe someday you'll grow up too. ;)

The comparison was intentional, congratulations on partially understanding something I articulated to you. It doesn't support your argument though, it highlights the fact that corporations have the downsides that governments have without having even the theoretical positive of protecting people.

Sure. When you grow up you realize the government isn't exactly looking out for you. Believing otherwise is a fantasy. I never suggested corporations were an alternative to government (since we are forced to deal with some form of government no matter how you slice it): you made that leap.


So you "grew up" from being skeptical of government to believing that they're the answer to the world's problems because Bush and Obama said nice things on T.V.? Looks like a step down to me. ;)


I understood everything you articulated to me: I just thought it was a pointless of you to do so since the only reason you argued against me appears to be "Anteater is wrong for not "believing" in government like I do".

All I did was propose a possible solution only to get dismissed for basically no reason. You can't have this both ways where you acknowledge you guys are being petty and generalizing and then criticize me just because I think there's merit to certain aspects of conservatism.

Never said the government was. I said they're one of the only levers we have to use against corporations.

No, I grew up from having simpleminded libertarian anti-government knee-jerk views to understanding that government—which is rife with it's own problems—is one of the only things that can curb corporate abuses.

Apparently you didn't understand, considering your descriptions of my position.

Cause when gubment takes its hands off big business, big business returns the favor? Yeah ok bud.