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FRED HALE SR. · 02-24-2017, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I hate to break this to you but you're far more likely to shoot yourself or get yourself killed in a shootout than you are ever to stop a break in

There are lots of stats on this

Guns do not make you safer the only real reason to own one is if you just like guns

I'll take a wait and see approach on that and get back to you. Guns certainly do make me safer, and will continue to do so.

**Frownland** · 02-24-2017, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

That can't be your only argument though. People can do just as much damage driving a car into a huge crowd of people. I'm sure there are other examples where this concept also applies but I can't think of one atm.

Cars have purposes beyond plowing people down. Can you think of a non-lethal purpose for a gun?

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 02-24-2017, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR.

I think you have to also take into account that those numbers are inflated due to the average joes ability to own a handgun as opposed to a high power rifle. Also, i'm guessing that those numbers are also inflated by illegal weaponry that has not been registered.

very true. i just think it's a cop out acting like getting rid of assault riffles will eliminate many gun related deaths. as DWV mentiones, its not like there arent other methods of mass killing/high damage.

FRED HALE SR. · 02-24-2017, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Cars have purposes beyond plowing people down. Can you think of a non-lethal purpose for a gun?

Target shooting/heirlooms for collecting/hunting/

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 02-24-2017, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Cars have purposes beyond plowing people down. Can you think of a non-lethal purpose for a gun?

getting through the line at the groccery store faster

DwnWthVwls · 02-24-2017, 05:07 PM

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Cars have purposes beyond plowing people down. Can you think of a non-lethal purpose for a gun?

Yes, fun. It's the reason most people want guns.

The Batlord · 02-24-2017, 05:08 PM

Honestly I'd rather not live in a society that decides its citizens' rights by pie charts and statistics. Guns may be more likely to kill you or a family member, but I'd rather live in a permissive society that gave me the option of defending myself as I see fit, within reason, than one that micromanages what I can and cannot do.

DwnWthVwls · 02-24-2017, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR.

I'll take a wait and see approach on that and get back to you. Guns certainly do make me safer, and will continue to do so.

Wait, so you've been in a situation where you had your gun and it stopped you from being harmed? Cause you can't make that claim otherwise. Just because you perceived a threat and had your gun ready, if nothing ever happened that's not a valid justification.

Edit: I think guns give most people the illusion of safety.

FRED HALE SR. · 02-24-2017, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

Lol

I'd pull up the numbers for you but I get the feeling you're going to believe this no matter what

I've read just about everything. Stupid people owning guns do stupid things. That I can't deny. And walking through California on a daily basis the stupidity is pretty much the masses so your argument isn't lost on me.

FRED HALE SR. · 02-24-2017, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

Wait, so you've been in a situation where you had your gun and it stopped you from being harmed? Cause you can't make that claim otherwise. Just because you perceived a threat and had your gun ready, if nothing ever happened that's not a valid justification.

Actually I once had to pull out my gun while in my house and instruct someone to put a knife away and leave my roommate alone and leave. Was I gonna wait for the guy to stab my roommate before I reacted? Thats a pretty absurd scenario. It stopped him from being harmed. I have not encountered anybody else i've needed to pull a gun on. I hope nobody ever has to defend themselves, but that is not always gonna be the case.