What Did President Trump Do Now?

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 02-24-2017, 04:17 PM

well idk considering they're two entirely different things that serve entirely different purposes.

oh wait, maybe there are some people who rely on a gun to get them to and from work...

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 02-24-2017, 04:19 PM

so whats your gimmick here, do you want gun regulations or not? im not in agreement with the money thing. but certainly we need more mental health testing to own a gun.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 02-24-2017, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

Kind of like being bad with money is entirely different from having a violent disorder

100% agree

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 02-24-2017, 04:27 PM

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I already said I'm for more gun regulations

However this particular rule I understand the removal of as it is indeed an overreach

i think this is the first time we've come to an agreement so yeah good stuff i agree

DwnWthVwls · 02-24-2017, 04:39 PM

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The two aren't connected in anyway though

Should everyone who's bad with money not get a driver's license? And do we let the DMV decide that by looking at your finances lol

I'll admit, my views on guns are pretty extreme, I don't think it should be a right. I see no reason for anyone to own one. If you want to argue it's for protection then prove you need protection and demonstrate how a gun will protect you. The DMV also doesn't do background checks which shows the two are looked at differently.

Chula Vista · 02-24-2017, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

I'll admit, my views on guns are pretty extreme, I don't think it should be a right. I see no reason for anyone to own one. If you want to argue it's for protection then prove you need protection and demonstrate how a gun will protect you. The DMV also doesn't do background checks which shows the two are looked at differently.

Agreed to a point. The wording and syntax of the 2nd is so messed up that I don't believe it is actually a right.

FRED HALE SR. · 02-24-2017, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

I'll admit, my views on guns are pretty extreme, I don't think it should be a right. I see no reason for anyone to own one. If you want to argue it's for protection then prove you need protection and demonstrate how a gun will protect you. The DMV also doesn't do background checks which shows the two are looked at differently.

It absolutely should be a right. Its already become a travesty in California for the wait periods and background checks involved. You might as well be muslim entering the country at this time for comparisons. I think millions of people for many milleniums have demonstrated how guns can protect you, thats pretty much why they exist.

Chula Vista · 02-24-2017, 04:50 PM

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It absolutely should be a right. Its already become a travesty in California for the wait periods and background checks involved. You might as well be muslim entering the country at this time for comparisons. I think millions of people for many milleniums have demonstrated how guns can protect you, thats pretty much why they exist.

BS. Guns have caused way more harm than good for decades in the modern world. Step away from the muskets Fred.

Putting Muslims in your rebuttal shines a weird light on you. I live in California. I own a gun. STFU.

DwnWthVwls · 02-24-2017, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR.

It absolutely should be a right. Its already become a travesty in California for the wait periods and background checks involved. You might as well be muslim entering the country at this time for comparisons. I think millions of people for many milleniums have demonstrated how guns can protect you, thats pretty much why they exist.

I'm not arguing it hasn't been demonstrated. I'm arguing it should be demonstrated on an individual basis. We will have to agree to disagree on your opening statement.

How about this, I'll reduce my stance to: Owning a gun should be a right if it is necessary for protection, but it should not be the right for anyone to get one because they like guns.

FRED HALE SR. · 02-24-2017, 04:52 PM

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BS. Guns have caused way more harm than good for decades in the modern world. Step away from the muskets Fred.

Putting Muslims in your rebuttal shines a weird light on you. I live in California. I own a gun. STFU.

That was my point genius. I don't recall saying guns haven't done any damage? Are you on meds? I put muslims in my rebuttal to illustrate my point. I also live in California and own multiple guns. And you can take your stfu and shove it up your tiny urethra Dinosaur Jr.