What Did President Trump Do Now?

**Frownland** · 02-15-2017, 07:42 PM

The wall we currently have is a fence and the reason I said it won't be effective is because the majority of people illegally entering the country through Mexico tunnel their way in. A wall won't do zilch about tunnels (or ladders).

DwnWthVwls · 02-15-2017, 07:48 PM

I'm not for the wall and I agree it won't be effective. I'm debating if the idea of making it better is inherently racist (which is what everyone giving Ant shit are arguing). I said it's not and explained why, and I've yet to see anyone in this thread, currently or in past conversations, justify their claim that it is. It's just a bunch of Trump hating (totally understandable) without any logic.

**Frownland** · 02-15-2017, 07:52 PM

If you buy a dog for the use of attacking black people, is your dog racist?

DwnWthVwls · 02-15-2017, 07:54 PM

Who called out Obama for being racist when he signed a bill that spent 600 million to improve border security?

DwnWthVwls · 02-15-2017, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland

I think that Mexico's border policy is not racist because it is essentially nonexistent lol.

With a quick google search I found this:

Mexico's Immigration Law: Let's Try It Here at Home | Human Events

Time for both of us to do some fact checking. I wonder where you came up with that.

**Frownland** · 02-15-2017, 08:05 PM

I came up with that through my several experiences of going to Mexico with absolutely nothing stopping me and from friends of mine who are exclusively American citizens who routinely stay for months in Mexico. Not to mention that the punishment for it is still essentially zero: "A penalty of up to two years in prison and a fine of three hundred pesos will be imposed on the foreigner who enters the country illegally." Which in Mexico, means that you just have to bribe the cops 600 pesos (aka 60 dollars). They won't even deport you.

DwnWthVwls · 02-15-2017, 08:15 PM

General Population Law of Mexico translation:
https://www.wilsoncenter.org/sites/d...0KOSLOWSKI.pdf

Your anecdotal evidence showing they don't deport Americans does not equal nonexistent immigration policies.. The US has a "problem" with Mexicans, Mexico has a "problem" with Central Americans..

https://www.wola.org/2015/05/border-...order-efforts/ - these are minors fleeing from bad situations and they are still being deported.

OccultHawk · 02-15-2017, 08:19 PM

I don't think we have a problem with Mexicans. I don't think I've ever had one negative experience with a Mexican.

DwnWthVwls · 02-15-2017, 08:24 PM

If I wasn't clear that statement meant immigration, not the people themselves, but please feel free to continue trying to discredit me since you don't have an actual counter argument for the actual point I'm making.

**Frownland** · 02-15-2017, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

General Population Law of Mexico translation:
https://www.wilsoncenter.org/sites/d...0KOSLOWSKI.pdf

Your anecdotal evidence showing they don't deport Americans does not equal nonexistent immigration policies.. The US has a "problem" with Mexicans, Mexico has a "problem" with Central Americans..

https://www.wola.org/2015/05/border-...order-efforts/ - these are minors fleeing from bad situations and they are still being deported.

I change my answer to them being racist.

02-15-2017, 07:42 PM	#2331 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	The wall we currently have is a fence and the reason I said it won't be effective is because the majority of people illegally entering the country through Mexico tunnel their way in. A wall won't do zilch about tunnels (or ladders). __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

02-15-2017, 07:52 PM	#2333 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	If you buy a dog for the use of attacking black people, is your dog racist? __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

02-15-2017, 08:05 PM	#2336 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	I came up with that through my several experiences of going to Mexico with absolutely nothing stopping me and from friends of mine who are exclusively American citizens who routinely stay for months in Mexico. Not to mention that the punishment for it is still essentially zero: "A penalty of up to two years in prison and a fine of three hundred pesos will be imposed on the foreigner who enters the country illegally." Which in Mexico, means that you just have to bribe the cops 600 pesos (aka 60 dollars). They won't even deport you. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

02-15-2017, 08:19 PM	#2338 (permalink)
OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,006	I don't think we have a problem with Mexicans. I don't think I've ever had one negative experience with a Mexican.