What Did President Trump Do Now?

Anteater · 02-15-2017, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

No. Operation Neptune Spear was 100% Obama's administration. Bush had been out of office for almost three years by that time. Nice try though.

Obama didn't take credit. He deserved full credit. Even my far right family back east gave him props on this one.

It's not that I'm a pessimist in my disagreement with you. It's that our ideologies and outlooks on things don't align. It's like Trump. He calls CNN fake news but thinks Fox is awesome. If you like me I like you. If you don't like me you aren't real.

You misunderstood my statement. The groundwork for Neptune Spear started before Obama took office, as they narrowed down the region of Pakistan where he was holed up as early as 2008. Was Obama president in 2008? Obama does get credit for everything that came after that point obviously.

**Goofle** · 02-15-2017, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Wanna bet? The fact that as many as 12 GOP senators are ready to block one of his nominees, and that Mitch McConnell is behind a full investigation into the Russia thing AFTER ONLY A MONTH of his presidency says a lot.

4 years = 48 months.

1 down, 47 to go. You expect things to get any better anytime soon Goof?

Dude. Jesus. You really live in a fantasy world.

**Frownland** · 02-15-2017, 05:01 PM

Nah, there are definitely 48 months in four years and 47 months left in a four year period counting from one month ago. Denying that is fantasy.

Chula Vista · 02-15-2017, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

The groundwork for Neptune Spear started before Obama took office, as they narrowed down the region of Pakistan where he was holed up as early as 2008. Was Obama president in 2008?

Dude. Just stop. You're stretching beyond belief here.

Intel started coming in as early as a couple of months after the attack. The real breakthrough, and launch of Neptune Spear was after OBL's courier was finally identified in 2010. Was Bush in office in 2010?

****ing ridiculous.

I can't take credit for the most recent Thanksgiving dinner I preprared because the Pilgrims are the ones really responsible.

**Frownland** · 02-15-2017, 05:07 PM

Both of you are wrong. Osama bin Laden didn't really die (at least by the hands of the US government), that was a hoax perpetuated to make the government look powerful to its enemies.

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I can't take credit for the most recent Thanksgiving dinner I preprared because the Pilgrims are the ones really responsible.

You'd be surprised.

Trollheart · 02-15-2017, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

One of your finest moments of 2017 so far Troll. My hat is off to you.

Not sure Ant understands how obtuse he comes across sometimes with his Trump defenses/excuses.

Um, thanks man. I didn't think it was that great, but you know, I'll take what's offered...

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Originally Posted by Anteater

What excuses? I gave reasonable explanations and illustrated some important differences between people specifically motivated by racism and those who are not. You guys only like to get particular with definitions as long as the argument is something you agree with. It isn't my fault if other people don't agree with me because they're pessimists. I can't force people to step back from their emotions. I said Trump wasn't motivated by racial hatred and people's heads exploded. What a shocker.

Also, wasn't that operation that Obama took credit for in regards to Osama something that started under the Bush administration?

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Originally Posted by Anteater

You misunderstood my statement. The groundwork for Neptune Spear started before Obama took office, as they narrowed down the region of Pakistan where he was holed up as early as 2008. Was Obama president in 2008? Obama does get credit for everything that came after that point obviously.

Wasn't Bush's famous reply to "Have you any leads on the whereabouts of UBL?" something like "I don't really think about him any more"? Doesn't sound like an administration that's actively looking for the guy. And by 2008 Bush would have been in "Vacation/Load up SUV 1" mode, ready to leave. Any initiatives that may have begun back then could hardly be credited to him. In his mind, he was already on the beach. Or riding around his ranch.

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Dude. Jesus. You really live in a fantasy world.

Um, why do you say that?

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Both of you are wrong. Osama bin Laden didn't really die (at least by the hands of the US government), that was a hoax perpetuated to make the government look powerful to its enemies.

You're wrong too. Osama was a double agent from the nineteenth reality dimension, sent back here to perpetrate 9/11 and in so doing assure that Trump got elected. Trump would then be shown the path to find the mysterious Mexicat amulet, which would allow him to take down the wall (how ironic!) between the dimensions, so that those from 19R could come through and take over ours, as theirs is collapsing into a black hole.

His face when he realises that 19R is populated exclusively by Mexicans and Latinos!

DwnWthVwls · 02-15-2017, 06:53 PM

I think Anteater made it pretty clear multiple times that regardless if Trump is a racist or not, his policies are not driven by racism. Idk why it's hard to see the difference. If you're gonna sit here accepting that almost all the presidents before him were racist, but claim it doesn't matter then I'd hope you'd apply the same logic to Trump unless he is trying to enact policy that is in fact racist.

Trollheart · 02-15-2017, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

I think Anteater made it pretty clear multiple times that regardless if Trump is a racist or not, his policies are not driven by racism. Idk why it's hard to see the difference. If you're gonna sit here accepting that almost all the presidents before him were racist, but claim it doesn't matter then I'd hope you'd apply the same logic to Trump unless he is trying to enact policy that is in fact racist.

How can building a wall to keep one race out of America (one of the biggest building blocks - sorry! - of his campaign) and banning immigration from Muslim countries not be seen as racist? And these are clear policies he's pushing, so, you know, idk what you mean...

DwnWthVwls · 02-15-2017, 07:00 PM

Well for one muslim isn't a race.. and 2 there is already a fucking wall. He wants to bolster something that already exists to prevent a problem that the US has accepted as a problem for a long time. Just because he ran his campaign on it that had all the biggest pieces of shit in America flocking to him, doesn't make either of those policies racist in and of themselves. Do Mexico and Canada not have policies that prevent us from sneaking in and living there illegally?

**Frownland** · 02-15-2017, 07:04 PM

Both are quite clearly driven by racist/xenophobic attitudes.

02-15-2017, 05:01 PM	#2313 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Nah, there are definitely 48 months in four years and 47 months left in a four year period counting from one month ago. Denying that is fantasy. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Both are quite clearly driven by racist/xenophobic attitudes. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x