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Old 02-13-2017, 04:17 PM   #2231 (permalink)
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Well, if you're going to Youtube for viable news stories, you may need to rethink your strategy.
No, I go to several places for viable news because these days you kind of need to get several different sources to fact check anything that's reported.

But that doesn't mean that videos on youtube haven't proven that media cuts his speeches to seem much worse than they are.

Hell, ICP proved that media outlets do this by taping their whole CNN interview they did back in 2011.
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Old 02-13-2017, 04:50 PM   #2232 (permalink)
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You're right - the public outcry will not stop Trump. It WILL affect how the judicial system handles him. I highly doubt anything would have been done about the travel ban if we had all quietly stewed about it in silence. But because of non-stop protests, storming of town hall meetings, and constant calls to our representatives, the court upheld the stay unanimously. Not to mention that there was a stay at all. That's a result right there.
Well, sure. But that won't always be the case. We got really lucky with the stop to the travel ban. I don't expect that to happen every time though.
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Old 02-13-2017, 04:56 PM   #2233 (permalink)
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Old 02-13-2017, 05:15 PM   #2234 (permalink)
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This Frownland-esque missing the point argument really doesn't fit you.
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Old 02-13-2017, 05:18 PM   #2235 (permalink)
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This Frownland-esque missing the point argument really doesn't fit you.
I'm just following elphenor's example bruh. I make an argument, he responds with one sentence eye rollers.
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I'm just following elphenor's example bruh. I make an argument, he responds with one sentence eye rollers.
Well when points are being made that you are somehow blind to, it's not a good look when you disregard good points with slander. Especially when you make the accusation that the racism and sexism doesn't exist with Trump. Which...if you look back at the campaign, it was right in your face. Don't be so evasive when you can't back up your claim.
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How so? Be very specific. Why are you so afraid of the ACA?

It's not perfect but with some sensible congressional tweaking it could actually work better than it already has.

You are probably the most intelligent cliche on this site.

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How so? Be very specific. Why are you so afraid of the ACA?

It's not perfect but with some sensible congressional tweaking it could actually work better than it already has.

You are probably the most intelligent cliche on this site.

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Well when points are being made that you are somehow blind to, it's not a good look when you disregard good points with slander. Especially when you make the accusation that the racism and sexism doesn't exist with Trump. Which...if you look back at the campaign, it was right in your face. Don't be so evasive when you can't back up your claim.
You missed the point I was making completely. Yes, Trump is "racist"...but so is everyone to some extent. FDR was a racist. JFK was a racist to some extent and misogynistic. We've never had a president who didn't exhibit issues of character at some point. Not a single one. And liberals can be very racist too: go read some of the things supposedly "tolerant" liberals have said about Sen. Tim Scott on Twitter based on an opinion he had when choosing to endorse Sessions.

The logical fallacy that you and countless others make in your analysis of Trump is that he is PERSONALLY driven by racial hatred, which is what I'm arguing against. He did not run for president because he hates other races. The fact that racists flocked to him was a byproduct of his populist approach and nationalist ideas in regards to America's place in the world: racism wasn't his core message and it never motivated him in any of his business ventures previously. The truth is that Trump doesn't care about race at all. For better or for worse. If radical white Irishmen were the ones donning exploding vests in places like France, he'd ban Ireland and target anyone who looked white with stereotypical red hair.

Someone saying that "I don't understand racism" is not a logical argument when I point to his hiring history, which is a reasonable argument to make considering how it has already been discussed here, for instance, that if a business doesn't tolerate homosexuality for religious reasons they certainly won't go out of their way to hire people of that orientation. Racists who make decisions in life based on hatred follow a similar principle. If I have no credibility, then prove it with an argument that works.
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