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Old 02-13-2017, 03:11 PM   #2221 (permalink)
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Old 02-13-2017, 03:13 PM   #2222 (permalink)
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There's tons of videos on youtube showing a lot of these independent liberal porn sites cutting up Trump speeches to sound even worse than they already are.
Well, if you're going to Youtube for viable news stories, you may need to rethink your strategy.
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That's precisely what I'm getting at. He has been president now for almost a full month, and there has been more chaos going on in this country than we saw over the past 8 years with Obama. I'm not saying the Obama presidency was perfect. Far from it. However, people weren't fearing for their lives because they wouldn't be able to get their pre-existing conditions taken care of under the insurance they have right now.
It looks like we might find out as early as this week what he has in mind as a replacement for the ACA, but whatever it is will likely take several years to roll out. The ACA as it currently stands is a ticking time bomb though, so I hope they figure something out sooner rather than later.
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That's precisely what I'm getting at. He has been president now for almost a full month, and there has been more chaos going on in this country than we saw over the past 8 years with Obama. I'm not saying the Obama presidency was perfect. Far from it. However, people weren't fearing for their lives because they wouldn't be able to get their pre-existing conditions taken care of under the insurance they have right now.

But I have another argument to put forward as well. With the successful nominations of Betsy DeVos and his other cabinet choices, how much worth can we put into getting our word out. I'm talking specifically about people rioting in the streets and protesting decisions that get allowed regardless of the public backlash. Is this just something we're going to have to get used to? Donald Trump has proven time and time again that no amount of public outcry will even come close to swaying his opinion on a bad choice.
You're right - the public outcry will not stop Trump. It WILL affect how the judicial system handles him. I highly doubt anything would have been done about the travel ban if we had all quietly stewed about it in silence. But because of non-stop protests, storming of town hall meetings, and constant calls to our representatives, the court upheld the stay unanimously. Not to mention that there was a stay at all. That's a result right there.
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Well, if you're going to Youtube for viable news stories, you may need to rethink your strategy.
No, I go to several places for viable news because these days you kind of need to get several different sources to fact check anything that's reported.

But that doesn't mean that videos on youtube haven't proven that media cuts his speeches to seem much worse than they are.

Hell, ICP proved that media outlets do this by taping their whole CNN interview they did back in 2011.
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You're right - the public outcry will not stop Trump. It WILL affect how the judicial system handles him. I highly doubt anything would have been done about the travel ban if we had all quietly stewed about it in silence. But because of non-stop protests, storming of town hall meetings, and constant calls to our representatives, the court upheld the stay unanimously. Not to mention that there was a stay at all. That's a result right there.
Well, sure. But that won't always be the case. We got really lucky with the stop to the travel ban. I don't expect that to happen every time though.
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This Frownland-esque missing the point argument really doesn't fit you.
I'm just following elphenor's example bruh. I make an argument, he responds with one sentence eye rollers.
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