What Did President Trump Do Now?

Anteater · 02-13-2017, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

His sexism comes from how he over all treats women even under the spot light. I'm not talking about the "Grab her by the pussy comment" because most of us have said much worse, but how he always talked about appearance when talking about women or claiming that reporter was on her period.

He didn't say some were bad. He said he's sure that a few of them are good.

Kind of like saying, I'm sure a few liberals aren't whiny pussies.
I'm sure a few conservatives aren't in the Klu Klux Klan.
I'm sure a few bands Ellphnor likes have talent.
I'm sure a few girls might sleep with Batlord.
I'm sure a few of Anteater's employees can afford to eat.
I'm sure a few children didn't turn Peter Scully on.
I'm sure a few Nickel Back songs don't make me want to blow my brains out.
I'm sure a few Justin Bieber fans are over 12.

Should I be paying my guys more than the six figures they already make annually? Sheesh.

Also, I'm just going to share this since it ties into the point I "thought" I got across before.

Key · 02-13-2017, 02:52 PM

^I don't really think you're quite understanding the actual point people are putting across. But it seems rather convenient that you'll tell other people to further their reading but simultaneously not read into media. Is there a source that you're reading that somehow is deemed more factually accurate than what people saw during the campaign? Trump didn't just randomly start being called sexist and racist. He based his campaign on it.

duga · 02-13-2017, 02:58 PM

I can see both sides - his supporters are still in "give him a chance" mode and I will admit the media is creaming their pants with the constant headlines berating him.

That being said...now it's a question of risk vs. reward. I feel a lot of his supporters felt the reward would have been worth the potential risk he posed. At this point it's pretty clear that reward we are hoping for is well beyond Trump's capacity. Even if he wanted to accomplish these things, he gets too distracted and he will be blocked at every turn by the Democrats (when they can) and the judiciary. That only leaves risk...having a man as our leader who had no idea the scope of this job is DANGEROUS.

Stephen · 02-13-2017, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by duga

I will admit the media is creaming their pants with the constant headlines berating him.

The anti-Trump media bias has really taken on a life of it's own. It really only hurts their credibility and plays into Trump's narrative of not believing anything they say. I mean the guy's an absolute dick and such an easy target but they need to pull back and stick to the facts which make the alternative facts look as ludicrous as they are.

Lucem Ferre · 02-13-2017, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

Should I be paying my guys more than the six figures they already make annually? Sheesh.

Also, I'm just going to share this since it ties into the point I "thought" I got across before.

No, it's just an example. We all know every band Elphanor likes has talent, let's be honest here.

No, see, everybody has a bit of prejudice and preconceived stereotypes about people. But we don't all act on it because we can critically think. He made a statement implying that majority of the illegal Mexicans coming into our country are violent criminals putting us at risk. Not only is he acting on racist ideals but he wants to implement policies based on that specific racist idea. A lot of what he says is scarily parallel to a Klan rally. The Klan says the Mexicans have taken this country from the whites. Trump says the illegals have taken this country from real Americans. The Klan says make America white again. Trump says make America great again. The Klan wants to **** their daughters, Trump wants to **** his daughter. Some of it might be a little hyperbolic but it's still there. They both probably wanted to hang Obama too. His whole birther movement was completely racist and would never happen if Obama was white.

Anteater · 02-13-2017, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii

^I don't really think you're quite understanding the actual point people are putting across. But it seems rather convenient that you'll tell other people to further their reading but simultaneously not read into media. Is there a source that you're reading that somehow is deemed more factually accurate than what people saw during the campaign? Trump didn't just randomly start being called sexist and racist. He based his campaign on it.

I do read into the media. And you have seen in past posts how I've eviscerated people for not reading into their own cited articles enough.

But unfortunately in today's day and age that's just the first step. The media are not objective and don't mix well with people not aligned to their parent company's agenda. Guys like Trump and, going a few years back, Mitt Romney. That's why you have to see what angle they are looking at something, why they're looking at it the way they are, then go back and read word-for-word what was said to figure out if there's a disconnect.

**Exo** · 02-13-2017, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by duga

I can see both sides - his supporters are still in "give him a chance" mode and I will admit the media is creaming their pants with the constant headlines berating him.

That being said...now it's a question of risk vs. reward. I feel a lot of his supporters felt the reward would have been worth the potential risk he posed. At this point it's pretty clear that reward we are hoping for is well beyond Trump's capacity. Even if he wanted to accomplish these things, he gets too distracted and he will be blocked at every turn by the Democrats (when they can) and the judiciary. That only leaves risk...having a man as our leader who had no idea the scope of this job is DANGEROUS.

So far the only thing he has accomplished is getting people into cabinet positions that have less experience thane even he has.

Key · 02-13-2017, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by duga

That only leaves risk...having a man as our leader who had no idea the scope of this job is DANGEROUS.

That's precisely what I'm getting at. He has been president now for almost a full month, and there has been more chaos going on in this country than we saw over the past 8 years with Obama. I'm not saying the Obama presidency was perfect. Far from it. However, people weren't fearing for their lives because they wouldn't be able to get their pre-existing conditions taken care of under the insurance they have right now.

But I have another argument to put forward as well. With the successful nominations of Betsy DeVos and his other cabinet choices, how much worth can we put into getting our word out. I'm talking specifically about people rioting in the streets and protesting decisions that get allowed regardless of the public backlash. Is this just something we're going to have to get used to? Donald Trump has proven time and time again that no amount of public outcry will even come close to swaying his opinion on a bad choice.

Key · 02-13-2017, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

But unfortunately in today's day and age that's just the first step. The media are not objective and don't mix well with people not aligned to their parent company's agenda. Guys like Trump and, going a few years back, Mitt Romney. That's why you have to see what angle they are looking at something, why they're looking at it the way they are, then go back and read word-for-word what was said to figure out if there's a disconnect.

But with this mindset, you pretty much count being racist and sexist as acceptable until proven otherwise. Trump has displayed both acts throughout his campaign but hides it more in his presidency. Are we just meant to accept the fact that he's been racist and sexist, and allow it until someone can do something? I don't think so.

Lucem Ferre · 02-13-2017, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii

^I don't really think you're quite understanding the actual point people are putting across. But it seems rather convenient that you'll tell other people to further their reading but simultaneously not read into media. Is there a source that you're reading that somehow is deemed more factually accurate than what people saw during the campaign? Trump didn't just randomly start being called sexist and racist. He based his campaign on it.

There's tons of videos on youtube showing a lot of these independent liberal porn sites cutting up Trump speeches to sound even worse than they already are.

02-13-2017, 02:58 PM	#2213 (permalink)
duga MB quadrant's JM Vincent Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 3,762	I can see both sides - his supporters are still in "give him a chance" mode and I will admit the media is creaming their pants with the constant headlines berating him. That being said...now it's a question of risk vs. reward. I feel a lot of his supporters felt the reward would have been worth the potential risk he posed. At this point it's pretty clear that reward we are hoping for is well beyond Trump's capacity. Even if he wanted to accomplish these things, he gets too distracted and he will be blocked at every turn by the Democrats (when they can) and the judiciary. That only leaves risk...having a man as our leader who had no idea the scope of this job is DANGEROUS. __________________ Confusion will be my epitaph...

02-13-2017, 02:52 PM	#2212 (permalink)
Key . Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 13,153	^I don't really think you're quite understanding the actual point people are putting across. But it seems rather convenient that you'll tell other people to further their reading but simultaneously not read into media. Is there a source that you're reading that somehow is deemed more factually accurate than what people saw during the campaign? Trump didn't just randomly start being called sexist and racist. He based his campaign on it.