What Did President Trump Do Now?

Anteater · 02-13-2017, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii

So his muslim ban isn't a direct correlation to his hatred for muslims? interesting.

Correct. I don't think he hates Muslims or other races at all. He has a hyperbolic fear of radicals getting into the U.S. though.

Key · 02-13-2017, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

Correct. I don't think he hates Muslims or other races at all.

You can't be serious.

Lucem Ferre · 02-13-2017, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii

So his muslim ban isn't a direct correlation to his hatred for muslims? interesting.

It's actually a travel ban on specific Islamic countries for 90 days. A lot less black and white than you make it out to be.

Anteater · 02-13-2017, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii

You can't be serious.

Look at his hiring history of his own organization and various initiatives. Would someone who despises non-whites ever hire them or promote them? I don't think race matters as much to him as the far left would like to believe. Trump is like Soros: he thinks he's above everything and everyone including his fellow white men, so I doubt it plays much into his thought process.

Lucem Ferre · 02-13-2017, 03:21 PM

Donald Trump wants you to know that he loves Muslims and he thinks their women make the best ninjas.

Key · 02-13-2017, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

Look at his hiring history of his own organization and various initiatives. Would someone who despises non-whites ever hire them or promote them?

Just because he hires someone doesn't mean he likes them. I don't think you're remembering his blatant racism and sexist remarks during his campaign. Pretty convenient that you seem to not remember that at all actually.

Lucem Ferre · 02-13-2017, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii

Just because he hires someone doesn't mean he likes them. I don't think you're remembering his blatant racism and sexist remarks during his campaign. Pretty convenient that you seem to not remember that at all actually.

His sexism might have been blatant, but god damn it his racism was subtle.

Anteater · 02-13-2017, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii

Just because he hires someone doesn't mean he likes them. I don't think you're remembering his blatant racism and sexist remarks during his campaign. Pretty convenient that you seem to not remember that at all actually.

"Blatant" racism? Where he said "some" illegal immigrants coming out of Mexico were rapists or drug dealers or cartel members? In the liberal news world, I guess that means that ALL Mexicans must be those things. But he never said "all" Mexicans now did he?

Again: bringing racism into the picture here assumes he is motivated by it. Did Hitler bring Jews into his inner circle? No. When you hate something, you will exclude it. Trump would never hire anyone in his organization who was a different race from himself if he really believed in what some of his opponents have claimed about him. He merely used fears that naturally align with racism in order to appeal to middle America.

I'm not trying to be mean to you here. I'm trying to demonstrate the difference between analyzing what is actually said versus analyzing an interpretation that a media outlet snipped out of a larger statement. If you are going to say Trump is motivated by racism and sexism, you need to provide evidence that those are his prime motivating factors. Looking at the whole pinata that represents Trump's actions throughout his life and including those he's made since becoming President, it doesn't look like those things are forces that drive him. His ego is so big I doubt he has room for anything else outside of his desire for wealth and attention.

Chula Vista · 02-13-2017, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

Correct. I don't think he hates Muslims or other races at all. He has a hyperbolic fear of radicals getting into the U.S. though.

And we're back to disagreeing. He has a hyperbolic fear of looking like anything less than amazing, beautiful, wonderful, awesome, (insert Trump adjective of choice here).

He ran his entire campaign on appealing to a scared white America by using "outsiders" as the enemy. Now that he's won he has to follow through on "The Wall" and "The Muslim Ban". Otherwise he'll look like a failure.

Trump hates nothing worse than looking bad or weak. Have we ever had a bigger ego running the White House? I'm not talking post election ego, but pre-election ego.

duga · 02-13-2017, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii

What you're saying is basically the same as "murder is an experiment into whether or not the person will kill someone" but when they kill someone, it no longer counts as an experiment.

I'm not sure I said that at all. I think you are confused as to what entails an "experiment". Murder isn't an experiment because murder has one result - death.

You stated in one of your previous posts that once we have a conclusion, it's no longer an experiment. I suppose you clarified what you meant here, but it was confusing since an experiment is an experiment even when you have a conclusion.