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Old 02-01-2017, 06:10 PM   #1811 (permalink)
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They have Sufis, who have some seriously amazing art and culture, but that's about it.
And Christianity doesn't? I'm sorry, but while Islam in the Renaissance gave us some great ****, it's otherwise just as much garbage as any other major religion. I understand the desire to desire to defend muslims, but their religion doesn't sound any less garbage than anyone else's, and everyone's religion is basically garbage.
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And Christianity doesn't? I'm sorry, but while Islam in the Renaissance gave us some great ****, it's otherwise just as much garbage as any other major religion. I understand the desire to desire to defend muslims, but their religion doesn't sound any less garbage than anyone else's, and everyone's religion is basically garbage.
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And Christianity doesn't? I'm sorry, but while Islam in the Renaissance gave us some great ****, it's otherwise just as much garbage as any other major religion. I understand the desire to desire to defend muslims, but their religion doesn't sound any less garbage than anyone else's, and everyone's religion is basically garbage.
Christianity does not have Sufis, no.
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Old 02-01-2017, 06:25 PM   #1815 (permalink)
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Isn't that just a very obvious technicality?
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Isn't that just a very obvious technicality?
Yes, but I'd go as far as to say that they don't have a Sufi equivalent that's large enough to matter as well.

Also note that I'm just answering your questions, not fulfilling my desire to desire to defend Islam.
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Yes, but I'd go as far as to say that they don't have a Sufi equivalent that's large enough to matter as well.

Also note that I'm just answering your questions, not fulfilling my desire to desire to defend Islam.
And unfortunately I don't care enough to pursue this. Damn beer.
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Islam didn't give us great **** but it isn't responsible for bad **** either
Now I get at least part of the reason you don't like Hitchens.
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Religions are as responsible for good stuff and bad stuff just like people. I am by your broad absolute statement.
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