What Did President Trump Do Now?

Anteater · 01-30-2017, 11:56 PM

It isn't just Trump with conflicts of interest in Saudi Arabia...it's the whole damn U.S. For that reason, I'm not surprised Trump didn't ban them, nor am I surprised previous administrations didn't ban them either.

**Frownland** · 01-31-2017, 12:07 AM

Congressional term limits: yay or nay?

Chula Vista · 01-31-2017, 12:12 AM

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It isn't just Trump with conflicts of interest in Saudi Arabia...it's the whole damn U.S. For that reason, I'm not surprised Trump didn't ban them.

Missing the point a bit.

Oh, and YAY!

djchameleon · 01-31-2017, 07:33 AM

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Congressional term limits: yay or nay?

Yay on this!

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Obama selected the specific countries Trump "banned". That's a fact. Read the document bro.

Why comparing Trump's and Obama's immigration restrictions is flawed | PolitiFact

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Trump said, "My policy is similar to what President Obama did in 2011 when he banned visas for refugees from Iraq for six months."

The Obama administration in 2011 delayed processing Iraqi refugees for six months following evidence of a failed plot by two Iraqi refugees.

Trump’s executive order temporarily bars travel to the United States for all citizens from seven countries, and it is not in direct response to actions from citizens of those countries.

Furthermore, Iraqi refugees were nonetheless admitted to the United States during the 2011 suspension while Trump has put an indefinite ban on Syrian refugees.

Take your own advice and read the document.

People that are trying to argue that it isn't a Muslim ban like MLM.
Full text of Trump's executive order on 7-nation ban, refugee suspension - CNNPolitics.com

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Upon the resumption of USRAP admissions, the Secretary of State, in consultation with the Secretary of Homeland Security, is further directed to make changes, to the extent permitted by law, to prioritize refugee claims made by individuals on the basis of religious-based persecution, provided that the religion of the individual is a minority religion in the individual's country of nationality. Where necessary and appropriate, the Secretaries of State and Homeland Security shall recommend legislation to the President that would assist with such prioritization.

So they are okay with letting in Christians, Catholics and any other minority religion because it is a MUSLIM ban!

It's not like you are thinking just banning the countries for whatever else other reasoning. They have the mindset that Muslims are dangerous and should be banned.

djchameleon · 01-31-2017, 08:01 AM

It's funny how people still believe that.

Neapolitan · 01-31-2017, 10:44 AM

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So they are okay with letting in Christians, Catholics and any other minority religion because it is a MUSLIM ban!

It's not like you are thinking just banning the countries for whatever else other reasoning. They have the mindset that Muslims are dangerous and should be banned.

The worry shouldn't be about letting in "Christians, Catholics and any other minority religion" the real concern should be the plight of the ""Christians, Catholics and any other minority religion" in those regions plagued by islamic terrorist.

Aleppo Bishop: Two Thirds of Syrian Christians Have Been Killed or Driven Away - Breitbart

So if I recall correctly he talked about a temporary ban until there is some way they could be "vetted" during his campaign, now it's in place. I don't see the point making it seem like they are banning countries out of the blue. Or making it seem like they banning muslims forever. The ban isn't targeting people for being an ordinary muslim. The elephant in the room, the thing no one wants to talk about are the terrorists. The terrorists are a problem within muslim communities and a problem for everyone else. And it's the terrorist causing the conflict where people have to flee, resulting in them becoming refugees.

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"What the president did was take the first step through this executive order of ensuring that we're looking at the entire system of who's coming in, refugees that are coming in, people who are coming in from places that have a history or that our intelligence suggests that we need to have further extreme vetting for." How the Trump administration chose the 7 countries in the immigration executive order - CNNPolitics.com

Chula Vista · 01-31-2017, 11:48 AM

And still waiting for someone to point out particular instances of terrorism here in the US committed by ANYONE from the 7 banned nations.......

People are so god damn afraid of the dark that they want Trump to ban the sun from going down.

Key · 01-31-2017, 01:03 PM

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And still waiting for someone to point out particular instances of terrorism here in the US committed by ANYONE from the 7 banned nations.......

There are none.

DwnWthVwls · 01-31-2017, 01:45 PM

i hope he continues religious profiling and exiles the west boro baptist church next.

Chula Vista · 01-31-2017, 01:57 PM

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i hope he continues religious profiling and exiles the west boro baptist church next.

Thumbs up to that. Dude actually upheld one of Obama's executive orders regarding LBGT rights today. Maybe there's hope.

Not.

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