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Old 02-12-2017, 05:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Counter culture.



Seriously, list 10 counterculture things about conservatives.
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Seriously, list 10 counterculture things about conservatives.
Anti-abortion, anti-welfare state, anti-Obamacare, BUILD A WALL, Nationalism, lowering taxes etc. there's more, but the point is that there's a difference of opinion between certain elements of the right and certain elements of the left. One is considered to be the norm (the left) and one is relatively against what we see reported in the media (the right).

We have to speak in generalities of course.
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Anti-abortion, anti-welfare state, anti-Obamacare, BUILD A WALL, Nationalism, lowering taxes etc. there's more, but the point is that there's a difference of opinion between certain elements of the right and certain elements of the left. One is considered to be the norm (the left) and one is relatively against what we see reported in the media (the right).

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No, no, neither is considered out of the norm. One is just slightly more popular.

It's like arguing that Justin Bieber is counter culture because he's not as popular as Taylor Swift.
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Anti-abortion, anti-welfare state, anti-Obamacare, BUILD A WALL, Nationalism, lowering taxes etc. there's more, but the point is that there's a difference of opinion between certain elements of the right and certain elements of the left. One is considered to be the norm (the left) and one is relatively against what we see reported in the media (the right).

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Maybe that's true in the UK, I don't know. But if you're trying to apply that to the US, I have to say you don't really understand this country.
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Maybe that's true in the UK, I don't know. But if you're trying to apply that to the US, I have to say you don't really understand this country.
Well yes, we are far more left over here unfortunately. It's crazy actually. But I think it's rather obvious to me as somebody who watches the USA quite closely that you seem to have a heavily left media establishment, which doesn't really represent the overall values of the country.
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Maybe that's true in the UK, I don't know. But if you're trying to apply that to the US, I have to say you don't really understand this country.
Obamacare and American nationalism are two huge topics in the U.K. .
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To be fair, my original post was built on the idea that I think most conservatives don't always feel the need to make themselves into a victim but if you say that's not the reality I'll accept it.
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To be fair, my original post was built on the idea that I think most conservatives don't always feel the need to make themselves into a victim but if you say that's not the reality I'll accept it.
It's nothing to do with victimisation. It's the ideology. Conservatism is in some ways a counter-culture.
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It's nothing to do with victimisation. It's the ideology. Conservatism is in some ways a counter-culture.
Spell that out. Stop generalizing. Be on point. Put on some big boy pants.
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