What Did President Trump Do Now?

DwnWthVwls · 01-29-2017, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

Nationalism is a scourge

Nationalism is fine in moderation. People using nationalism to justify racism, bigotry, jingoism, (insert many other isms), etc is a scourge.

**Janszoon** · 01-29-2017, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy

they're pants*

They're literally pants.

DwnWthVwls · 01-29-2017, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

They're literally pants.

Your literally pants.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 01-29-2017, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

They're literally pants.

they're literally crap pants there.

Raust · 01-29-2017, 02:54 PM

There's people who are shocked. CNN, FOX, MSNBC, New York Times predicted Clinton all to win and a lot of people stayed at home on 8th confident that there would be a Madame President in the morning.

Also doesn't help that people believed that the next Hitler was put into office by all the insane journalism throughout this election cycle.

There was literal people taking dumps in the pants at JFK airport you guys. Pretty funny.

**Exo** · 01-29-2017, 02:59 PM

People also being secretive and ashamed of voting from Trump as skewed the election predictions. A lot of people just didn't come out and say they were voting for either candidate due to the label that would have most likely been plastered on them. This election was a unique monster. People were being defined and in some cases assaulted and attacked for who they supported. I'm not surprised they kept that sh*t secret. It's hard to predict an election when a good portion of voters were keeping their mouths shut.

DwnWthVwls · 01-29-2017, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

It's all bad

people are people

To stop caring about fellow human beings because they're on the other side of an imaginary line and still consider yourself a good person requires some elite self-delusion

That's a nice strawman, but I'll ignore that and ask a follow up.. Do you think preserving culture is a bad thing? I do not want to live in global melting pot. I want to be able to travel to different parts of the world and experience different cultures and have my thoughts challenged. The good parts of nationalism preserve culture and create a good form of segregation which prevents homogenization. I'm not promoting intolerance here or lack of empathy for anyone outside your own culture.

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I believe in virtually open borders (with background checks ofc) because it is what is morally right

Sacrificing function for morality is more immoral than closing or limiting immigration, especially if one of your criteria for determining morality is to limit suffering.

**Exo** · 01-29-2017, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

I want to be able to travel to different parts of the world and experience different cultures and have my thoughts challenged. The good parts of nationalism preserve culture and create a good form of segregation which prevents homogenization. .

To be fair, I don't think the integration of different cultures does sh*t to our identity as Americans. New York City is a gigantic cauldron of different cultures but still maintains its "New York" feel that is unique to any other city in the world.

DwnWthVwls · 01-29-2017, 03:06 PM

First off that's an extraordinary claim so let's see some stats. Second, you're talking in specifics, I'm talking in general, sometimes it is necessary for the welfare of a country, which is full and barely able to support it's own people, to not accept more people..

It's analogous to overfilled foster homes.

DwnWthVwls · 01-29-2017, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Exo

To be fair, I don't think the integration of different cultures does sh*t to our identity as Americans. New York City is a gigantic cauldron of different cultures but still maintains its "New York" feel that is unique to any other city in the world.

Yeh because our identity as Americans is a melting pot... the rest of the world is not like that. Not saying it's bad, but I don't want the rest of the world to be like us.

01-29-2017, 02:59 PM	#1636 (permalink)
Exo All day jazz and biscuits Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: NJ Posts: 7,354	People also being secretive and ashamed of voting from Trump as skewed the election predictions. A lot of people just didn't come out and say they were voting for either candidate due to the label that would have most likely been plastered on them. This election was a unique monster. People were being defined and in some cases assaulted and attacked for who they supported. I'm not surprised they kept that sht secret. It's hard to predict an election when a good portion of voters were keeping their mouths shut. __________________ LastFM SUPREME POO BAH MODERATOR EXTRAORDINAIRE*

01-29-2017, 02:54 PM	#1635 (permalink)
Raust Music Addict Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,411	There's people who are shocked. CNN, FOX, MSNBC, New York Times predicted Clinton all to win and a lot of people stayed at home on 8th confident that there would be a Madame President in the morning. Also doesn't help that people believed that the next Hitler was put into office by all the insane journalism throughout this election cycle. There was literal people taking dumps in the pants at JFK airport you guys. Pretty funny.