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He was elected based on the policies he put forward. He looks to be going through with said policies. That's how it should work.

don't get too excited about Canada, Kevin O'Leary seems set on becoming our next Donald... he's currently running to head the conservative party.

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 1800757)

For me, Trump just gets creepier by the minute. With US citizens protesting at airports, US judges ordering stops on Presidential exec orders, and people with US visas being detained, it looks like a shambles that is both hurting and infuriating a lot of innocent people. How can Trump say, "it's working out very nicely"? The same way he said that it stopped raining when his speech began, I suppose; he's prepared to lie even in the face of irrefutable evidence to the contrary.

At least in the past, politicians used to be more discreet about their deceptions, crediting us some level of critical intelligence. But Trump shows an arrogance, a contempt for the American people - that they can be told anything, and will have to live with it. That's creepy.

I know you should support your president and all, if only to keep America from totally going down the ****ter, but if this is the start of a straight up peaceful civil war then I'm down.

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1800743)

No, and you can have The Batlord too.

You can have deez nuts.

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 1800757)

For me, Trump just gets creepier by the minute. With US citizens protesting at airports, US judges ordering stops on Presidential exec orders, and people with US visas being detained, it looks like a shambles that is both hurting and infuriating a lot of innocent people. How can Trump say, "it's working out very nicely"? The same way he said that it stopped raining when his speech began, I suppose; he's prepared to lie even in the face of irrefutable evidence to the contrary.

At least in the past, politicians used to be more discreet about their deceptions, crediting us some level of critical intelligence. But Trump shows an arrogance, a contempt for the American people - that they can be told anything, and will have to live with it. That's creepy.

What I bolded there is honestly a lot more creepy than Trump, but we've lived with it for decades.

It's funny how people on the right and Trump supporters are all about the constitution but when freedom of religion is concerned that doesn't matter. It only matters if you are Christian.

How has he banned freedom of religion?

He hasn't. The travel bans are basically religious tests. When you ban people from coming in from Muslim majority countries that infringes on freedom of religion especially the people that already went through the proper channels to get US Visas.

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1800781)

What I bolded there is honestly a lot more creepy than Trump, but we've lived with it for decades.

Hi Anteater! Good to see you posting again after a long absence!

Yes, hidden deceptions are very worrying, of course, but they do indicate that politicians feel there's some accountability to the public. There's a limit to what they can get away with, hence the need to hide things.

Some of Trump's announcements remind me of things from Soviet era totalitarianism - that there is no need for the official version to reflect the facts, that factual debate is irrelevant.

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 1800793)

Good to see you too! Hope you've been well.

Trump is a typical populist strongman, for better or for worse depending on a multitude of POVs. He acts the way he does because he has no political experience though, as opposed to having an agenda based on hatred. He's going to be an interesting case study four years from now, especially if he decides not to run for re-election.

On another note, seeing CNN and similar news outlets post an upside down statue of liberty was pretty over the top, so I thought I'd share this for something resembling a more balanced perspective on what's happening.

The National Review - Donald Trump's "Muslim Ban" - Seperating Fact From Hysteria

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1800784)

He hasn't. The travel bans are basically religious tests. When you ban people from coming in from Muslim majority countries that infringes on freedom of religion especially the people that already went through the proper channels to get US Visas.

Why does it? Would it apply if he banned people from Italy?