What Did President Trump Do Now?

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 01-26-2017, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by innerspaceboy

I would also add Trump's plan to sign The First Amendment Defense Act as an event-to-watch-for, which would prohibit the federal government from taking "discriminatory action" against any business or person that discriminates against LGBTQ people. The act distinctly aims to protect the right of all entities to refuse service to LGBTQ people based on two sets of beliefs: "(1) marriage is or should be recognized as the union of one man and one woman, or (2) sexual relations are properly reserved to such a marriage." (as reported by NBC News just before year's end).

probably an unpopular opinion here but i think business' owners should be able to do this if they want. in my personal opinion i would much rather openly know that someone is homophobic or racist than giving them my hard earned money only to find out who i was supporting later down the line. anybody remember the whole cake thing?

Court Rules Bakery Illegally Discriminated Against Gay Couple - ACLU - Colorado

at the end of the day you can't force away bigoted individuals, and i feel it's better to let the civilians see what the truth of the matter is and handle it themselves instead of having the government get involved.

**Frownland** · 01-26-2017, 08:30 AM

Depends on where it is. In some rural locations it could be the only place to get a cake for miles. Framing it as an attack on their religious freedoms is some of the most bizarre lines of thinking that I've ever heard.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 01-26-2017, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by GuD

Its lgbtq. There's no A for allies. Theyre rippinf ypu off. Who the **** cares. Move to SF and see what these people really are- ****ing elitist negligent entitled garbage. I can't believe i ever wasted time sticking up for these people.

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Lesbians triedv to kill me and gay dudes tried to rape me. I make mistakes left and right and upon reflection realize that I follow very closely the footsteps of the community currently discussed.

lol

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 01-26-2017, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Depends on where it is. In some rural locations it could be the only place to get a cake for miles. Framing it as an attack on their religious freedoms is some of the most bizarre lines of thinking that I've ever heard.

ya I agree that it isn't an attack, but I just don't agree with forcing a business into doing something. the kind of person who thinks being gay is against God's will is the kind of person that I would actively try not to support.

as far as the only bakery for miles, I doubt that is much of an issue during a wedding. if you're already falling into the idea that weddings need to be an extravagant affair then I doubt the extra travel or delivery fee is going to hurt you too much.

I'm not excusing business' from being abusive or offensive either, obviously there is a fine line between firmly denying service and being a ****. you're probably a dickhead regardless, but I believe it should be within your right to be a dickhead.

**Frownland** · 01-26-2017, 09:08 AM

Ja. I can't get behind creating second class citizens because of people's ass-backwards beliefs.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 01-26-2017, 09:16 AM

If people don't want to sell cakes to gays they should be allowed just accept your business will probably suffer.

I'd rather buy gay friendly cakes myself.

**Frownland** · 01-26-2017, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey

If people don't want to sell cakes to gays they should be allowed just accept your business will probably suffer.

I'd rather buy gay friendly cakes myself.

I don't have faith in that assumption. If you're homophobic, you probably live in a place where that idea isn't challenged that often.

Anteater · 01-26-2017, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Nice mini-deflection Trumpeater. Care to comment on this?

Mexican President: We will not pay for Trump's wall - CNNPolitics.com

Do the Trump posse realize that if he enforces tariffs in order to get Mexico to pay for the wall it will only mean higher prices for US consumers?

I was making a joke. Only a leftist stooge like you would call that deflection. But hey, at least you have good taste in prog.

He'd have that wall paid for in a few days if he could put some kind of tax on money going back into Mexico via Western Union + similar services....

...wait, I'm pretty sure we talked about this before.

The Batlord · 01-26-2017, 10:50 AM

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And by the way, the "A+" represents asexuals and everyone else who is not cisgender or straight.

I don't really like the thought of joining ideologies to atheism though, not least because atheism is not itself an ideology. I also don't like joining it to something that has evolved to include so many divisive and regressive individuals as 3rd wave feminism has. I'm fine being an atheist who reps feminist ideals, but I don't want it to end up being required for me to conform to an ideology I don't necessarily agree with (3rd wave feminism) in order to call myself an atheist.

**Frownland** · 01-26-2017, 10:52 AM

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I don't really like the thought of joining ideologies to atheism though, not least because atheism is not itself an ideology. I also don't like joining it to something that has evolved to include so many divisive and regressive individuals as 3rd wave feminism has. I'm fine being an atheist who reps feminist ideals, but I don't want it to end up being required for me to conform to an ideology I don't necessarily agree with (3rd wave feminism) in order to call myself an atheist.

Huh?

01-26-2017, 08:30 AM	#1412 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Depends on where it is. In some rural locations it could be the only place to get a cake for miles. Framing it as an attack on their religious freedoms is some of the most bizarre lines of thinking that I've ever heard. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

01-26-2017, 09:08 AM	#1415 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Ja. I can't get behind creating second class citizens because of people's ass-backwards beliefs. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

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~~Cuthbert~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Black Country Posts: 8,827	If people don't want to sell cakes to gays they should be allowed just accept your business will probably suffer. I'd rather buy gay friendly cakes myself.