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Old 01-24-2017, 04:29 PM   #1321 (permalink)
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Thanks for the replies guys. I guess it did happen, but nothing was shown on the news here. Maybe it's because there was a more "it's a good thing" sort of vibe being pushed by the media than there is with Trump, where really I suppose they can see no real "good thing" to push. I guess all the hatred and racism and protests got lost (at least, over here) amid the general euphoria that a black man had finally made it to the highest position in the country, and not just to deliver pizzas.

We certainly got a different viewpoint over this side, which is why I asked the question, though it does make sense that there would have been those protests. I just wondered why we had never heard of them being mentioned in the mainstream news media.
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Old 01-24-2017, 04:29 PM   #1322 (permalink)
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It's because it was done on a much smaller scale.

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I'll ask again. How do you know that, as you said, "Obama had nothing to do with Islam" You made the claim. I'm just asking how do you know.
Obama is not mentioned in the Quran even once.
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Old 01-24-2017, 04:39 PM   #1323 (permalink)
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Obama was well educated on Islam, as well as a lot of other things related to world affairs, before campaigning for office. Too bad Trump didn't take the same route and instead just used negative stereotypes to fuel the fear of his supporters.

Just knowing a lot about a culture doesn't make you a member or follower of it. Don't be so dense.
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Old 01-24-2017, 04:47 PM   #1324 (permalink)
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Obama was well educated on Islam, as well as a lot of other things related to world affairs, before campaigning for office. Too bad Trump didn't take the same route and instead just used negative stereotypes to fuel the fear of his supporters.

Just knowing a lot about a culture doesn't make you a member or follower of it. Don't be so dense.
Oh I never said I believed it (notice how I said his view was sensible), I'm talking about the thought process of the people who do believe those silly conspiracies. To them, what you describe justifies their foolishness (to themselves) as much as Trump's ties with Russia justifies an undoubting love of anything that makes him look bad. This is why I feel both camps are so similar and are acting very ironically.
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Is it not more nuanced than that

We know Russia disrupted the election through hacking the DNC
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Where as Obama had nothing to do with Islam
Inside the Ring: Muslim Brotherhood has Obama's secret support - Washington Times
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Oh I never said I believed it (notice how I said his view was sensible), I'm talking about the thought process of the people who do believe those silly conspiracies. To them, what you describe justifies their foolishness as much as Trump's ties with Russia justifies an undoubting love of anything that makes him look bad. This is why I feel both camps are so similar and are acting very ironically.
Sometimes it's difficult to hone in on your primary point because of the way to phrase things.

But I honestly believe that Obama/Islam while being the same generally speaking but was on a much tinier scale than Trump/Bush.

Obama/Islam didn't have 13 US intelligence agencies backing it up. I don't remember any prominent Muslims being so vocal of wanting Obama to win. I also don't remember information being leaked that was tied to any Muslim nation that may have negatively affected either McCain or Romney.
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Two can play at that game.

Here's the Evidence Russia Hacked the Democrats | Time.com

And of course Obama and many other world leaders were secretly behind The Muslim brotherhood. Do you even know what that movement was about?
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My primary point is that these two camps are operating in a very similar nature due to their lack in critical thinking and skepticism when it comes to things that they either already believe or want to believe.

Oh and there was that Vice doc on the Romneys' involvement in the Mexican drug war, but I don't know how much of an effect it had.
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At least you finally realized the burden of proof is on you even if it's a planetary leap you're making here
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Where as Obama had nothing to do with Islam
A Washington Post article and a video both providing information to the contrary. Seems your claim is not substantiated.
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As of today TSDJD is back on the "3.5 million illegal votes - I won the popular vote by a huge margin". Again TSDJD speaks of reports and studies he's seen but refuses to release them. (sound familiar?)

Sean Spicer actually looked really uncomfortable at today's press conference trying to relay TSDJD's message of illegal votes. And I just watched Paul Ryan and Mike Huckabee basically laugh and deny it when asked.

Dude, you got the job. She got 3 million more votes. Deal with it.
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