What Did President Trump Do Now?

Chula Vista · 01-19-2017, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by riseagainstrocks

The soon-to-be President called a massive news organization a bunch of liars in the middle of a nationally televised press conference. Representative of that organization asks for the opportunity to defend himself (we'll never know, but I suspect it would be to clarify that what they reported was that intelligence officials were briefing Trump on the dossier, as opposed to saying it was true - a distinction that the Brietbarts and Infowars of the world DO NOT make). The President-elect then continues to berate this reporter and calls on his good friends at **** Decency, This is the Internet (outrageous headlines from the President's favorite "journalists") for his next soft-pitch.

This isn't partisan for me. I lean left, but I'm hardly a Hillary or Bernie supporter. If Mike Pence was giving these press conferences he would let the question be asked and if was unfair, he would attack it. This is what rational humans do. Trump is plunging his tiny hands into the body politic, ripping out organs of the state, and severing connections between all the moving parts.

And to rebut Neapolitan's point, there are over 200 million registered voters. For ease of argument, let's say 200 million exactly (source). Donald Trump received 62,979,636 votes (let's call it 63 million - source). Therefore, 31.5% of eligible voters cast their ballots for him. But none of this matters when you look at approval ratings. Your choice goes from this person vs. this person to thoughts on a single person. Approval rating polls are conducted among voters and non-voters, Republicans, Democrats, and others.

What is a fact is that Donald J. Trump has historically low approval ratings for how the transition is being handled (source). Could have something to do with his know-nothing appointments to Housing and Urban Development (1:40-2:00 is a classic gaff, obviously not what he meant, but still), Education (Devoss), and, to a lesser extent, Health and Human Services.

You guys could take the tack of: 'yeah Donald Trump isn't really a Republican or conservative, but he won, so let's be vigilant when he oversteps and make ourselves heard so he shuts down his 3 AM twitter "diplomacy", but overall we need to support the President.' But instead I see a full-throated defense of many of his outrageous statements, actions, contradictions, and tantrums. That, I don't get.

Finally, I've made a couple of thorough responses to several of you in here that have not been replied to. Is MB just a place to make statements and have petty fights? If so, I'll stop attempting actual discourse. Just trying to figure out the how the culture has changed here.

Chula Vista · 01-19-2017, 11:48 AM

One thing I'd like to see changed is how the Senate is comprised. The "Two senators per state regardless of population" thing is just plain dumb.

Wyoming's two senators represent approx. 291 thousand people each.

California's two senators represent approx. 19.17 million people each.

Why should Wyoming have as much power voting on legislation, that will affect the entire country, as California?

That's a 66 to 1 ratio in population yet it's a 1 to 1 ratio in voting power?????

**Frownland** · 01-19-2017, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I understand it with the Senate just not with the presidency

Or rather I disagree with the way it's implemented through the Electoral College

Pretty much this.

Chula Vista · 01-19-2017, 03:52 PM

You got to be crazy, gotta have a real need
Gotta sleep on your toes, and when you're on the street
You got to be able to pick out the easy meat with your eyes closed
And then moving in silently, down wind and out of sight
You got to strike when the moment is right without thinking.

And after a while, you can work on points for style
Like the club tie, and the firm handshake
A certain look in the eye, and an easy smile

You have to be trusted by the people that you lie to
So that when they turn their backs on you
You'll get the chance to put the knife in.

You gotta keep one eye looking over your shoulder
You know it's going to get harder, and harder, and harder as you get older
Yeah, and in the end you'll pack up, fly down south
Hide your head in the sand
Just another sad old man
All alone and dying of cancer.

And when you lose control, you'll reap the harvest you have sown
And as the fear grows, the bad blood slows and turns to stone
And it's too late to lose the weight you used to need to throw around
So have a good drown, as you go down, all alone
Dragged down by the stone.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 01-19-2017, 06:59 PM

good song

The Batlord · 01-19-2017, 07:02 PM

Needs more cowbell.

Neapolitan · 01-19-2017, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by riseagainstrocks

If Mike Pence was giving these press conferences he would let the question be asked and if was unfair, he would attack it.

If Mike Pence was in the same situation, and the reporter acted in the same way, I highly doubt that he would let that guy jump in front of line (so to speak). If Pence chose another reporter to ask a question, and the guy went off like that, he would not yield to him. Sure he have to quell the raucous before proceeding, but just not in the same manner as Trump.

Chula Vista · 01-20-2017, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

Mike Pence is scum of the Earth.

Dude is convinced that evolution is a theory and that God should be shoved down every child's throat. **** him.

Anteater · 01-20-2017, 12:12 AM

Tristan_Geoff · 01-20-2017, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Dude is convinced that evolution is a theory and that God should be shoved down every child's throat. **** him.

But um... Chula?

Evolution is a theory :/

01-19-2017, 11:48 AM	#1152 (permalink)
Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	One thing I'd like to see changed is how the Senate is comprised. The "Two senators per state regardless of population" thing is just plain dumb. Wyoming's two senators represent approx. 291 thousand people each. California's two senators represent approx. 19.17 million people each. Why should Wyoming have as much power voting on legislation, that will affect the entire country, as California? That's a 66 to 1 ratio in population yet it's a 1 to 1 ratio in voting power????? __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

01-19-2017, 03:52 PM	#1154 (permalink)
Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	You got to be crazy, gotta have a real need Gotta sleep on your toes, and when you're on the street You got to be able to pick out the easy meat with your eyes closed And then moving in silently, down wind and out of sight You got to strike when the moment is right without thinking. And after a while, you can work on points for style Like the club tie, and the firm handshake A certain look in the eye, and an easy smile You have to be trusted by the people that you lie to So that when they turn their backs on you You'll get the chance to put the knife in. You gotta keep one eye looking over your shoulder You know it's going to get harder, and harder, and harder as you get older Yeah, and in the end you'll pack up, fly down south Hide your head in the sand Just another sad old man All alone and dying of cancer. And when you lose control, you'll reap the harvest you have sown And as the fear grows, the bad blood slows and turns to stone And it's too late to lose the weight you used to need to throw around So have a good drown, as you go down, all alone Dragged down by the stone. __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”