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All I said was that he was right that there was significant Soviet infiltration. I didn't say I agreed with everything he ever did or said.

Why'd you have so many back and forths before you added that qualifier? That sounds like one of the first things you'd say when people say that his ends don't justify his means in the slightest.

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1796116)

Connect the dots people.

Fact-Checking That Trump & Putin Thing

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1796208)

Continuously making excuses for people is part of the problem. You're not helping.

This is the reality we live in, you either do something about it or remain stagnant. Stop trying to justify laziness, lack of interest/education, and indifference.

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1796217)

It's like talking to a wall.

Idk anything about China, do you? Probably about as much as you pretend to know about free healthcare. Let's stop building a strawman and discuss the question at hand. Nothing was ever accomplished by lazy people who complained. You need to take action, and for you to sit here and say that expecting people to take some responsibility in the change they want to see is a lazy way to look at how change happens is absolutely mind boggling.

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1796227)

Disenfranchisement is an issue but you can't just overlook the fact that some people are just indifferent to the entire political process and won't turn out no matter what.

If Trump is so clearly a con man, how has the media not recognized how plastic his smile towards Putin is? It's a stupid common sales tactic that he discusses at length in The Art of the Deal.

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1796304)

Why'd you have so many back and forths before you added that qualifier? That sounds like one of the first things you'd say when people say that his ends don't justify his means in the slightest.

That's not exactly something we can quantify.

But when it's a central topic of the discussion at hand and you respond with "no, he was right", it does sound like you're making a statement on the end justifying the means.

It's a debate worth having but my comment was that he was right about communist spies etc., not that he was right to act in a specific way.

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1796306)

If Trump is so clearly a con man, how has the media not recognized how plastic his smile towards Putin is? It's a stupid common sales tactic that he discusses at length in The Art of the Deal.

But he uses that same smile with pretty much everyone.

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1796330)

But he uses that same smile with pretty much everyone.

He avoids criticizing everyone? What's the rent like at your rock?

Anyone defending Trump on anything is automatically classified as a piece of ****. There's literally not one thing you can defend about him and if you can find something, maybe you need to rethink how you view the world.