De-extinction: Ethics Debate

The Batlord · 10-13-2016, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Lilja

Can you also get rid of all those that don't recycle and over consume. I am so tired of being told to recycle/buy local goods/ take the train and see how the amount of recycling and everything good we do here in Sweden amounts to jack when other countries citizens keep justifying their overconsumption, recycle little, and pollute like crazy. Get rid of those guys and then the animals will be really happy ��

Yeah, you people aren't doing **** regardless of anybody anywhere else who isn't recycling. Recycling is just feel good bull**** shoved down your throat to give you the false impression that you're actually doing something. All the non-recycled soda cans in the world amount to nothing compared to corporate pollution. Without them being held accountable you're just patting yourself on the back to make you feel better about yourself.

Key · 10-13-2016, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Yeah, you people aren't doing **** regardless of anybody anywhere else who isn't recycling. Recycling is just feel good bull**** shoved down your throat to give you the false impression that you're actually doing something. All the non-recycled soda cans in the world amount to nothing compared to corporate pollution. Without them being held accountable you're just patting yourself on the back to make you feel better about yourself.

Honestly, I have to agree. Here in Seattle if you didn't split your recycling into 4 separate bins, you'd be fined for it. They took that fine away since it's such a ridiculous standard to be held in the city. Literally, my grandparents live in West Seattle, and they have 4 separate bins in their backyard. One for yard waste, one for paper, one for recyclables and one for trash.

Lilja · 10-13-2016, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Yeah, you people aren't doing **** regardless of anybody anywhere else who isn't recycling. Recycling is just feel good bull**** shoved down your throat to give you the false impression that you're actually doing something. All the non-recycled soda cans in the world amount to nothing compared to corporate pollution. Without them being held accountable you're just patting yourself on the back to make you feel better about yourself.

I don't think it is necessarily bull if you can see it directly affecting your life. Here we sort household trash, paper, plastic electronics; metal, see through glass, colored glass, battery, light bulb, food, and spray can. If you do not recycle the district can charge you extra. The food waste becomes biogas which powers the local busses and taxis. Water waste is treated and is nice enough you could drink it. Soda cans/bottles and beer cans can be returned (and you get money for them) and new cans and bottles are made from them. Glass is melted.and there is a local glassblower that also uses it for art. Trash is burned and used for heating the house...in the end only 1 percent of waste ends up in the dump and even that place is pretty enough there is a hotel by it. The district I live in encourages environmental protection and is currently planting an oak forest (for future generations) and sponsors local recycling projects such as one guy near us who got money to begin building a water and wind powered mill that will grind wheat into flour to sell to other communities. So...I would not say it is all bull. If all places and countries did the same I would think there would be a direct result at least localy. But I think overconsumption can be at least something that people can at least directly impact by using less .

Corporate pollution is a huge problem. But there is nothing that the one person can do about it. Unless you have a government that actually says no to it (like Sweden did when other countries and corporations tried to bury their nuclear waste here). I will content myself with what I am doing as that is really all I can do and I dont want to live in my own filth.

Neapolitan · 10-27-2016, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Yeah, you people aren't doing **** regardless of anybody anywhere else who isn't recycling. Recycling is just feel good bull**** shoved down your throat to give you the false impression that you're actually doing something. All the non-recycled soda cans in the world amount to nothing compared to corporate pollution. Without them being held accountable you're just patting yourself on the back to make you feel better about yourself.

Before you get flippy, Zippy. Recycling is about your municipality turning trash into cash. Your empty beer cans are on a slow boat to China, where they pay for trash aka recyclables. It's cheaper for them to recycle aluminum than to extract it from bauxite. Whenever you chuck your beer can in the recycle bin, you're actually putting money into someone's pocket.