Fake presidential candidates polling high in the US

Key · 10-12-2016, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackMalachite

I believe so; obviously there are some aspects that can't be run like a business, and eventually everyone will come to realize that. But having the government be a regulations enforcer with a strict budget, rather than a dominating force with a whopping budget problem, run like a loop-hole free corporation would be much better.

That's rather silly. Not even going to get into the business arc of it involving Trump. Also, what's he going to do, hold Congress down and force them to agree with the way he runs things or else? Not going to work since the President doesn't actually have as much power as people think.

BlackMalachite · 10-12-2016, 01:09 PM

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Wouldn't a strict budget help avoid overspending?

That's exactly what I said, I wanted a strict budget.

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That's rather silly. Not even going to get into the business arc of it involving Trump. Also, what's he going to do, hold Congress down and force them to agree with the way he runs things or else? Not going to work since the President doesn't actually have as much power as people think.

Obama proved over these last eight years (four in particular) that he can practically steamroll over Congress, so I'm not exactly sure what would be so different in regards to that.

Key · 10-12-2016, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackMalachite

Obama proved over these last eight years (four in particular) that he can practically steamroll over Congress, so I'm not exactly sure what would be so different in regards to that.

Yes, because one out of the eight years he actually stood up to Congress counts as steamrolling.

**Frownland** · 10-12-2016, 01:11 PM

Ah I misread it but now I have another question. Isn't regulations enforcement BIG GOVERNMENT?

BlackMalachite · 10-12-2016, 01:12 PM

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Yes, because one out of the eight years he actually stood up to Congress counts as steamrolling.

He passed quite few executive orders if memory serves me correctly, correct me if I'm wrong though.

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Ah I misread it but now I have another question. Isn't regulations enforcement BIG GOVERNMENT?

No, it's limited government. Big government is interference with business policy in terms of how they run their business within the scope of the established rules.

Key · 10-12-2016, 01:13 PM

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He passed quite few executive orders if memory serves me correctly, correct me if I'm wrong though.

I wouldn't know factually. My mom follows politics more than I do and she said he really only started to stand up to Congress in his last year or so.

**Frownland** · 10-12-2016, 01:14 PM

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No, it's limited government. Big government is interference with business policy in terms of how they run their business within the scope of the established rules.

But how do you enforce regulations without creating established rules and interfering with business policy that breaks said regulations?

BlackMalachite · 10-12-2016, 01:16 PM

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I wouldn't know factually. My mom follows politics more than I do and she said he really only started to stand up to Congress in his last year or so.

I did notice a sharp spike in the amount of activity Obama's been pushing through in this last year, so from what I've seen your mom is right. Although I wouldn't call it "standing up" considering a lot of things that have been passed due to these orders aren't exactly morally sound.

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But how do you enforce regulations without creating established rules and interfering with business policy that contradicts said regulations?

Oh no what I'm saying is; limited government is enforcing those established rules and regulations, big government is going beyond those rules and regulations to try and get involved much deeper into the way a business is run (aka who they can and can't serve to, etc)

Key · 10-12-2016, 01:18 PM

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I did notice a sharp spike in the amount of activity Obama's been pushing through in this last year, so from what I've seen your mom is right. Although I wouldn't call it "standing up" considering a lot of things that have been passed due to these orders aren't exactly morally sound.

Example?

**Frownland** · 10-12-2016, 01:18 PM

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Oh no what I'm saying is; limited government is enforcing those established rules and regulations, big government is going beyond those rules and regulations to try and get involved much deeper into the way a business is run (aka who they can and can't serve to, etc)

Before those rules were established, they had to be created. I think big government just tricked you into supporting it.

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