Let's talk about capitalism

Chula Vista · 09-29-2016, 02:51 PM

Capitalism with reasonable regulations to insure that the greedy can't run amok with it.

**Frownland** · 09-29-2016, 02:54 PM

ENsure ffs

Chula Vista · 09-29-2016, 02:57 PM

STop stalking me.

**Frownland** · 09-29-2016, 02:58 PM

I'll ztop when I want to ztop.

**Goofle** · 09-30-2016, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Isbjørn

How would it be possible to abolish corporatism but maintain private ownership? The age of monopolies has existed for a hundred years, and there's no reason to assume that the free market capitalism of the 1800s will redevelop, or that it would even be desirable.

Socialism f*cking sucks dude. I would rather a few people getting rich by unfair means than everyone queuing in line for bread, p*ss poor and pretending it's been a successful revolution.

**Frownland** · 09-30-2016, 01:50 AM

Socialism>false dichotomies

The Batlord · 09-30-2016, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Goofle

It's the best economic system we have created up to this point, and I'd be in favour of less regulation and taxes. But I don't know enough to say if that would work.

Corporatism is the real issue.

And the best way to end corporatism is by deregulating corporations.

**Janszoon** · 09-30-2016, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

And the best way to end corporatism is by deregulating corporations.

Isbjørn · 09-30-2016, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Goofle

Socialism f*cking sucks dude. I would rather a few people getting rich by unfair means than everyone queuing in line for bread, p*ss poor and pretending it's been a successful revolution.

People are queuing in line for bread in capitalist countries today, dude. Where would you rather live - revolutionary Cuba, or today's India?

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

And the best way to end corporatism is by deregulating corporations.

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Terrapin_Station · 09-30-2016, 04:53 AM

I'd put a socialist system in place instead.

My idiosyncratic socialist system would still have economic inequality and be competitive, but it would ensure that everyone has food, shelter, health care, education, transportation, etc.

I have no inherent love for democracy. I couldn't care less about governmental structure in that sense. What I care about is the laws we have and the economic structure in place. I'd be fine with a monarchy or dictatorship (or an oligarchy or whatever) as long as I agree with the laws and economic structure instantiated. Democracies are no more inherently likely to have laws and economic structures that I prefer.

View Poll Results: What should we do about capitalism?
Replace it with socialism, through parliamentary reforms	5	15.63%
Replace it with socialism, through revolution	5	15.63%
Use more public regulations to counteract some of its consequences	13	40.63%
Scale down public regulations to let the free market run its course	6	18.75%
Nothing, it’s fine as it is	3	9.38%
Voters: 32. You may not vote on this poll

09-29-2016, 02:51 PM	#11 (permalink)
Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	Capitalism with reasonable regulations to insure that the greedy can't run amok with it. __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

09-29-2016, 02:54 PM	#12 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	ENsure ffs __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

09-29-2016, 02:57 PM	#13 (permalink)
Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	STop stalking me. __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

09-29-2016, 02:58 PM	#14 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	I'll ztop when I want to ztop. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

09-30-2016, 01:50 AM	#16 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Socialism>false dichotomies __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

09-30-2016, 04:53 AM	#20 (permalink)
Terrapin_Station Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: NYC Man Posts: 877	I'd put a socialist system in place instead. My idiosyncratic socialist system would still have economic inequality and be competitive, but it would ensure that everyone has food, shelter, health care, education, transportation, etc. I have no inherent love for democracy. I couldn't care less about governmental structure in that sense. What I care about is the laws we have and the economic structure in place. I'd be fine with a monarchy or dictatorship (or an oligarchy or whatever) as long as I agree with the laws and economic structure instantiated. Democracies are no more inherently likely to have laws and economic structures that I prefer.