Goofle

I wonder if the many dozens of millions of people that he had killed were counted in that life expectancy equation?

Also if you're going to show polls taken by a population that has some of the worst freedom of speech and press laws in the history of the World, maybe take it with a pinch of salt.

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Psy-Fi

This thread reminded me of a film I saw on PBS recently about life in Cuba called "Cuba's Secret Side"...

Cuba’s Secret Side

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William_the_Bloody

Wow! Someone is actually defending Mao...creepy. He killed more people than Stalin and Hitler combined. The Great Leap Forward only killed an estimate of 30 to 45 million people, throw in a couple thousand more murdered during the cultural revolution.

Top Ten Most Evil Dictators of All Time (in order of kill count) | Popten

LMAO. This is a total disqualifyer lol. Wow! a true Communist, that's like finding a white supremacist on the forum. Crazy!

Isbjørn

I'm not trying to whitewash Mao. You were claiming that the people of China preferred capitalism to socialism, which is not the case. You were also using the fall of the Soviet Union as proof of capitalism's superiority, when most Russians actually want the Soviet system back.

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William_the_Bloody

Lol, you go Communist. To argue in favour of Communism is so preposterous to me, I'll let you have the day lol. You won the argument. All praise the glorious of Communism, were do I sign up to allow some a$$hole to have complete control over my life, lol. Take care.

Isbjørn

I'm signing off from this thread temporarily. I don't like where this is heading and don't want to cause any trouble.

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The Batlord

No trouble, you're just goofy.

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GuD

I think a highly regulated monopoly on all goods and services would be the most fair economy. It would probably also be the death of creativity. Seems you can't solve the worlds problems without destroying diversity and culture. Conflict for the warmth of fire or some shiz.

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Goofle

Fair in what sense? I exist therefore gimme some of Bill Gates money kinda fair?

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William_the_Bloody

It wouldn't be fair at all, in fact it would be your worst F'n nightmare!

Studies have shown that a great deal of people who are in the top echolons of power are either people with extremely type A, aggressive personalities, or people who are good at articulating themselves socially (ie; bull$hitters like Trump)

If you were to nationalize everything and get rid of private enterprise, you would simply allow these people to consolidate and concentrate their power at the top like they did in the Soviet Union, and there would be no escape.

At least in a capitalist society if your boss is a dick at the Home Depot you can go work for the competition, imagine if you were stuck under one big government corporation and your only chance of escaping a dick was by transferring out.

What society needs is a strong labour movement in all sectors of society to counteract the abuses of corporate power, and in today's day and age, we have to have multinational, international unions that support workers in several countries. The only way we can bring wages back up in North America, is by bringing wages up in China and Mexico. Whether you like it or not were all in this together.