Let's talk about capitalism

Isbjørn · 09-29-2016, 05:23 AM

During the last few years, more and more voices have begun to criticize capitalism's adverse effects. In Greece, Syriza has appeared as a voice against the austerity imposed by the neoliberal European Union. Podemos has played a similar role in Spain. In Paris, “Nuit debout” protesters have occupied public squares, in a way similar to the Occupy Protesters in New York. We have all heard what the problems are, now the point is to propose solutions. How do we fix corruption? How do we create a democracy for working people? How do we fight economic inequality? Should capitalism be abolished? How should that be done?

**Frownland** · 09-29-2016, 07:27 AM

I say we abolish it and keep the type of government that has never had any problems.

Blank. · 09-29-2016, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

I say we abolish it and keep the type of government that has never had any problems.

Love this idea.

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**Frownland** · 09-29-2016, 08:07 AM

Oh is that why it sounds like ****?

Blank. · 09-29-2016, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Oh is that why it sounds like ****?

No. That's just the toilet getting flushed.

**Goofle** · 09-29-2016, 08:59 AM

It's the best economic system we have created up to this point, and I'd be in favour of less regulation and taxes. But I don't know enough to say if that would work.

Corporatism is the real issue.

Blank. · 09-29-2016, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Goofle

It's the best economic system we have created up to this point, and I'd be in favour of less regulation and taxes. But I don't know enough to say if that would work.

Corporatism is the real issue.

I (being serious) agree with everything you said. I am yet to see a system come along that doesn't work as well as capitalism.

~~ChelseaDagger~~ · 09-29-2016, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Goofle

It's the best economic system we have created up to this point, and I'd be in favour of less regulation and taxes. But I don't know enough to say if that would work.

Corporatism is the real issue.

Isbjørn · 09-29-2016, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle

It's the best economic system we have created up to this point, and I'd be in favour of less regulation and taxes. But I don't know enough to say if that would work.

Corporatism is the real issue.

How would it be possible to abolish corporatism but maintain private ownership? The age of monopolies has existed for a hundred years, and there's no reason to assume that the free market capitalism of the 1800s will redevelop, or that it would even be desirable.

Blank. · 09-29-2016, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Isbjørn

How would it be possible to abolish corporatism but maintain private ownership? The age of monopolies has existed for a hundred years, and there's no reason to assume that the free market capitalism of the 1800s will redevelop, or that it would even be desirable.

Yes. But monopolies have been written out fairly well. The ones that still exist unfortunately only exist through most likely illegal means of buying out the people who are suppose to stop them.

View Poll Results: What should we do about capitalism?
Replace it with socialism, through parliamentary reforms	5	15.63%
Replace it with socialism, through revolution	5	15.63%
Use more public regulations to counteract some of its consequences	13	40.63%
Scale down public regulations to let the free market run its course	6	18.75%
Nothing, it’s fine as it is	3	9.38%
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09-29-2016, 05:23 AM	#1 (permalink)
Isbjørn cooler commie than elph Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: In a hole, help Posts: 2,811	Let's talk about capitalism During the last few years, more and more voices have begun to criticize capitalism's adverse effects. In Greece, Syriza has appeared as a voice against the austerity imposed by the neoliberal European Union. Podemos has played a similar role in Spain. In Paris, “Nuit debout” protesters have occupied public squares, in a way similar to the Occupy Protesters in New York. We have all heard what the problems are, now the point is to propose solutions. How do we fix corruption? How do we create a democracy for working people? How do we fight economic inequality? Should capitalism be abolished? How should that be done? __________________ fast(ml) Hear me play the guitar Look, mom! I got a journal

09-29-2016, 07:27 AM	#2 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	I say we abolish it and keep the type of government that has never had any problems. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

09-29-2016, 08:07 AM	#4 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Oh is that why it sounds like ***? __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth.* d e a f b o x